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01 Feb 2016 17:41:08
Welcome to Rangers Mikey, it all changes now.
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25 Jan 2015 17:12:13
I Found myself in tears at the start and end of Fernando Ricksen's Tribute game, almost 42,000 people came out on a dreech, windy Sunday in January, to watch auld duffers miskick a ball around and all to help a man the don't know personally who finds himself facing the most terrible fate, the sheer emotion of a standing ovation and everyone inside the stadium singing his name was in itself more powerful than any political rhetoric or Hollywood scripted monologue.
Somehow I find a little faith restored in the intrinsic good in people, in a world where we are encouraged to highlight our differences, not the basic things we share, like compassion, community and the positive power of people who believe in doing what's right, it was amazing to watch so many buck the trend and do something selfless.
God bless you Fernando, you did more for us today in reminding us what can be acheived in positive movement than we can ever repay.
1.) 25 Jan 2015 18:04:16
Couldn't describe as well myself mate.
You'd have to have a heart like a lump of putty not to have had a wee tear in your eye today.Not had a buzz like that at Ibrox since we stopped Selik having a title party in 2012.Well done Bears,done us proud.Great day.
2.) Football can be emotional. For the greats who have ill healthand the unfortunate deaths of our football greats Wee Jinky , Super Cooper the list goes on mate. Well done to one and all inside Ibrox today and the many people who have supported players who have donned their skill in our country.
3.) 25 Jan 2015 18:08:03
fantastic post m8, emotional as I am, and you too by the sound of it, you hit a soft spot in me, I loved Nando, and his fun, crazy, carefree outlook and actions, he is an inspiration to us all, as was jinky, I lost my wee bro recently to a horrible disease, he was a big Gers boy and would have loved to be there today, he lived his life just like Fernando, although I was working today I am proud to be part of the " family" specially on days like I've been described today, we are hopefully on the brink of uprising, and showed today what Rangers are all about,
God bless you Nando, and good luck to the Glasgow Rangers
4.) 25 Jan 2015 18:26:17
For me it was remembering how good the atmosphere is when Ibrox is filled like that and things are going well, I hope the coming weeks will be stepping stones back to an atmosphere like that every other Saturday. All the very best Fernando so glad he got that crowd today very proud to be a Gers supporter today well done everyone who took park and bought a ticket.
5.) Great post great day Great fans humbling experience watp
6.) Tommy hopefully your wee bro would have been watching it all and enjoying the singing from the blue skies over ibrox.
13 Jan 2015 02:08:16
Mornin Bears,
After King and the 3 Bears bought their shares we all thought "This is it" and felt that the long long wait for our redemption was over, it isn't.
We now have a splintered shareholding of MAJOR investors who cannot/will not agree on anything as it will be seen as capitulation to the other party (s) and a weakening of postion, Ashely will not budge when their is a dollar to be made, face facts, the guy did not become a Billionaire by being gregorious and forthcoming in his business deals, it's using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law in all cases, this is a fight to the death!
My question to the more financially minded of my cohorts is:
What will it take for him to walk?
He won't give up his shares for 20p which is more than he paid, what about 25p? 30p? more?
We don't know!
What we do know is he has hijacked the board, has the Easdale brothers in his pocket (love to know the incentives) and will use them to block any offer that does not meet his requirements of capital investment versus return, he also will not want anyone undermining the legitimacy of the retail contract and it's stranglehold over future finance streams - their his, end of story!
After 3 years of questions and a host of people in a position to answer we still do not know the fundamentals:
Who owns the rights to all our assets?
So we move to Mr King and the 3 Bears, what will they do? What CAN they do realistically when they have not publically garnered the support of the other investors to oust the board and stabilise the company by a majority shareholding or a group vote? As they can't get board votes due to the Easdales proxy shareblock and Ashleys men on the board already it's tied up in favour of board influence versus majority shareholding.
Is your head swimming yet? Mine is!
The simple answer is that when I win the Lottery this week I will make a ridiculous offer to buy these people out, ironclad the contracts and give Rangers back to my people to purchase through a season book come first "Buy the club" scheme.
That way our most loyal can have first offer on shares, no more dilution and also have first voting rights on elections for senior figures at the club as well as representation by our fanbae but I would insist on one group as all this division is ruining our chances of having a voice when we have neede it most, seems to have gone alright for Barca and let's look lower, Dortmund, a team worth their salt against anyone and totally fan based with an academy that produces talent by the bucket through great coaches and patience.
If it was my investment I would want to move forward and acheive something, use the fans, use the media, use the courts if you have to and to the Rangers men who are in it now:
We've done all we can, it's your move!
1.) Charli3, I have to agree.
Easedale and his proxies seem to control everything, but we've no idea what he wants out of it. The club needs money, that is not in doubt, or it will fold again. There is nothing left for them to take (in monetary terms) that cannot be gained by selling the shares. What is the end-game for these guys??
I also agree with lee below and really do believe the Sarver bid was genuine and that he would have been great for us. I don't know if any fans out there (RST/UOF, etc) have any contact with King/3 Bears (or ever Sarver) but can we not get these three round the table (is that not what Sarver wanted) and some up with some strategy.
How can they knock back a takeover bid, in the best interests of the shareholders when there is no immediate prospect of a cash injection?
As usual, more questions than answers.
2.) Charlie – All of the above is exactly why the Sarver bid was by far the best option for the future of Rangers. He was able and willing to take full control of the club
You ask what King and 3B, s will do, That’s anybody’s guess,
After all this time they buy shares but don’t take it the final mile to take them into a majority
Makes me wonder if they really want control, remember the original king consortium offer was for only 28% through the issue of new shares, why only 28%?
Probably because they stayed under the 30% number that kicks in the requirement to offer to buy out the other shareholders
What can they do is a different question
They can declare a concert party and make the offer to buy all other shareholder out, they only need a small percentage to sell and they will have over 50%, maybe they don’t want total control for some reason as that would mean they would have responsibility to elect the board to run the company
They can call an EGM to remove the board and elect new board members, they only need 40% of all shareholders to vote in favour of their resolutions, they already hold 34% with fan groups and others like Prior it should be odds on,
Aagain maybe they don’t want to be responsible for the board, much easier to stay as it is and blame Ashley Easdale and co
Seen some rumors that they will strike a deal to get one or two places on the board, maybe that will suit them, as again they will not be totally responsible
Lots of maybes above but they haven’t really told us what they are planning so we need to guess
JG
3.) With ashley it boils down to his ego. he would see rangers destroyed before he lost to any incoming movement. I also agree the easdales are getting incentives of some sorts. I think it comes down to king paying over the odds to buy out other investors. as they have the swinging shares, which could swing this battle, a price worth paying. definetly.
4.) 13 Jan 2015 10:43:42
What I would like to know is what proxies exactly do the Easdales hold now? Laxey was their biggest proxy vote block and those shares were bought by the Three Bears recently. Who is left?
I feel that there will be movement this week on things. An EGM will be called by start of next week (only my opinion). At the moment positioning and choosing of sides will be taking place. Realistically what investor is going to think that the current board are doing a great job and acting in the best interest of even them. What dividend if any would have been paid. Rangers has not been profitable for a long long time now.
5.) Charli3, Good post, but from day one I have thought that the ownership of Ibrox is the key to this shambles.
If, as the accounts state, Rangers own Ibrox lock, stock and barrel, why is it that it has not been used for a secured loan? Companies do this all the time when needing cash to trade and this is our current problem.
I still feel that something stinks about the murray/whyte sale and the subsequent release of the security on Ibrox.
6.) Charli3
Great post, however feel Ashley has been behind whole episode from the start- Duffy & phelps! Still can't work out the end game for him, unless he can sweet talk the SFA. However the 3 bears and king have positioned themselves to make this meeting a waste of time.
Fridays game should be 100% boycott, live on TV and would make a huge statement.
It's the only way to drive them out. Can't understand the " I support the team through it all brigade" don't you see you are dragging this out.
Need a mass demo prior to kick off then find a pub to watch it in. Or a mass walk out at halftime. Need to do something. Said it before on this forum - the manky mob would have chased them by now.
7.) Gers09. Total boycott, if the support walk out at half time, they are defeating the purpose, as they will need to pay in, with exception of book holders.
08 Jan 2015 02:49:39
A bit of investigation on the man in question from Newcastle fans group: Beware Bears this is NOT over!
Why were we told that Mike Ashley didn’t do due diligence when he was looking at buying Newcastle United? Why would a business man renowned for investing in failing brands and offering crisis loan (or gambling massively on potential share failures, as he did with Tesco recently) be concerned with bailing out the club with a personal loan that was repayable by strict terms, and was protected by the club’s assets and its incoming TV payments?
Forgive the cynicism, but that doesn’t add up.
Looking at how Ashley is now dealing with Rangers – sending Derek Llambias in as a consultant, and looking to profit precisely because the club’s finances are in such a mess – and indeed at his wider business history, the idea that he would not look at the club’s finances is perverse to say the least. We’re told that Ashley saved the club, that he had to pump his own money in when Freddy Shepherd – cast forever as the villain – hid the truth as if they did their deal in the back room of a pub and John Hall skipped off into a puff of smoke laughing like a ghoul at the great deception.
No, Ashley is a crisis businessman, attracted to precisely the things that we accept as the things he apparently missed in his negotiations with John Hall. We were sold – by the man himself – the image of an investor who bought the club because he loved football, but then Sir John revealed that over the course of three days of negotiations (not the whirlwind dealings we were all led to believe in), Ashley’s representatives outlined more financially led reasons:
“I was told that the man behind the deal was Mike Ashley and I sat with his representatives over 3 days thrashing out a deal. I was keen to know why they wanted the club and they were quite honest. They wanted to market their sports goods in the Far East and would use the club to help do this. â€
Hall also confirmed that Ashley’s party were the preferential buyers, over a Malaysian consortium, because they waived the right to due diligence, which would have held up the deal for six weeks (and apparently added a golden handshake for the privilege of not doing due diligence). The results of that diligence would only have revealed a stadium mortgage, and there has to be a reason Ashley’s representatives offered a better deal as well as waiving due diligence – it wasn’t just to beat the other consortium, it was more likely because it wasn’t really necessary.
Would Ashley’s team of financial cohorts – who identify potential investments and brands to buy just as his scouting team look for contract clauses and “falsely affordable†players like Yohan Cabaye and Demba Ba – really miss something as incomplex as a mortgage? Perhaps they didn’t do due diligence because they didn’t need to, and it could be worked in to the narrative of Ashley as personal saviour rather than the motivated, operating administrator that he actually is in his wider business career.
In light of the Rangers situation, it all looks a bit fishy, and while cynics will no doubt say it’s mere speculation, it does seem odd that a man who doesn’t fail in business deals – who has an almighty investment team working with him, and who actively seeks crises he can “fix†to profit – would make such a fundamental error.
We needed to believe any buyer would be more interested in football, rather than business, and that story seems to have fed rather wonderfully at first into the idea of a slightly foolish messiah: we wanted to be deceived that football is not business, and it seems that’s exactly what might have happened.
1.) He has just dumped a load of low paid workers on the dole too. The staff at his Ayrshire USC plant have just been made redundant. Stop buying from this shyster.
2.) Charli3
what if the viliian who runs down the business and knows where skeletons are is a stooge in the first place.
this would allow second buyer to appear to rescue business and not need due diligence and thus steal deal from other investors
if sheppard and green were the advanced party, due diligence would not be required by gamblers or someone who knew all the risks already
goodwin (rbs) showed that real business men do due diligence just in case
09 Aug 2014 02:17:49
Yes we are hurting, sometimes it seems it'll never end but we're CLIMBING up the way, Celtic just got pushed back in to The Champs League and then got another key player sold within hours?
The club has money from CL, player sales and all it's marketing and commercial revenue so why no new players?
They're waiting till we go up to spend an ever increasing war chest as to battle us and another team from the Championship as well as both Domestic cups, Champs League qualifiers and possible first round, why spend it in a season without European competition, Rangers, Hearts or Hibs?
Their fans are livid and embarrassed, they know they got beat badly and don't deserve to go through and after being put back in their best player gets sold? They feel betrayed!
Just like we do.
Both clubs are being ****ed over for spivs to coin in.
It's a fitbaw thing.
17 Feb 2015 00:19:12
I think McInnes is the favourite of the football people at the moment.
McCall is my standout as he has everything we need including freedom of contract as he's not at a club at the moment but what about Tugay? He's been there, done that and been Captain and assistant manager/coach in some big setups so why not give him a call?
15 Jun 2016 14:19:28
If he's that good a manger why oh why does he play Fletcher over a proven goal machine like Rhodes who can't even make the squad?
Gordon Greer?
Belgium have a similar population to Scotland but they got fed up and restarted how they do things from 6 year olds to the full squad being managed by well trained coaches, they missed a few tournaments but look at them now, that's the road we need to go down, not this constant barrel scraping and STILL not making it.
12 Jun 2015 14:51:20
Ryan Gauld had a 60m Euro clause put in his contract as standard to dissuade the big 2 in Spain from grabbing him on the cheap should he hit his potential and while he won't cost as much as that should some team want to buy him now they have no intention of selling him this soon into his development, he wouldn't come back anyway - would you?
All the other teams are doing their business already, only the really big transfers will drag on as it involves mega millions and protracted negotiations.
My optimism lies in just having a team to watch that isn't on a permanently shaky nail, we may take a few years to get back up to a reasonable level but it'll be worth it if it's built on a solid foundation of scouting, youth and good technical football.
We all hated the "Quick fix" mentality that fell short as we knew it would so let's show some patience and let the guys get it right this time.
Champions League/Sunday Pub League - I'm still going to be a Ger!
24 Dec 2014 03:53:58
I mooted on here and various other forums 2 years ago that we should unite as fans and stop the squabbling, I even went far enough to call for a "Union" of fans, the idea got the usual bawlocks from the fans who have nothing positive to say EVER and suddenly the Union Of Fans is another splinter group.
If I had bigger hands I'd shake ye aw till you woke up at the same time.
Remember, they work for us, not the other way around so WE have the power to change things, 8 Million in the hole and still we have our Chairman speak to the shareholders like endentured servants?
If Rangers Football Club is to fail finacially, I'd rather it be because we stopped the influx of cash than they siphoned it off, euthanasia over murder.
With the money I'm saving by not lining there pockets that's another £2000 in my holiday fund so it's Jamaica this year, yay!
Once brand trust has been lost it is almost impossible to regain, remember Ratners? He fuqqed people off as mugs and what happened?
I implore you my brothers and sisters of the Blue, starve these ponces out, it is the only way we will ever have a club again even at the lowest level where we can rebuild on the integrity of what Bill Struth stood for and what we all yearn to have back, Pride in our club - not shame!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Just so I'm clear.
You all advocate doing nothing but would like change? Criticize the few folk who will march against the board and actively come on here to say you don't agree with any protest?
If your the the voice of Rangers I give up!
"And Nero fiddled while Rome burned. "
Charli3.
Good post Steerpike, a bit of financial common sense although I do have concerns over the Man City figures, Wallace presided over the biggest financial loss for any club EVER and I know they spent massively to restructure the squad but if he was such a raging success why is he not still there or at another blue chip company? I don't think admin 2. 0 will happen as too many big financial management organizations are invested and they realize that if it happens for the sake of a few million investment to protect and grow their share all their equity in the company is dissolved come the inevitable fold and that would infuriate their shareholders whose money they used to buy it and cause a loss of confidence in the city market which they would not risk no matter if it is penny shares, we might have been a bargain but there is money to be made with the right business model and tapping into the global market, something that has never been fully exploited.
The Dave King thing rumbles on but for all the conjecture and whispers no-one really knows his position and why he is not onboard after the AGM ratified the board and our financial (mis)manager has exited stage left.
I'm on the forums daily trying to find any concrete information but nothing solid is getting through to the fans.
Time to step up Mr Wallace and start the process of simply informing your customer base of the developments as we know this site and others are monitored by the media team so WE KNOW that YOU KNOW how we feel and to have lifelong season book holders talking of boycotts and withholding funds from our team should have EVERYONE at corporate level looking to implement basic channels of communication.
Look what happened to Celtics board by not listening and where are they now?
Shame it's not a bit more sunny or Becks might have bought us, lol.
Charli3.