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02 Jan 2015 13:46:22
Somers to resign on Monday, James Easedale will keep his seat on the new look board. Negotiations taking place to settle Ashley debt, llambias will also resign to avoid the costs of an extraordinary meeting to remove them all which would now be investiable without Sandy's proxy vote to veto. Paul Murray will take a seat on the board along with Scott Murdoch and Alex Wilson who are also part of the 8 team of investors working along with King. Here is a summary of King's investors.
Dave King
George Latham
George Taylor
Douglas Park
Scott Murdoch
Alex Wilson
Paul Murray
Ian Harte
1.) 02 Jan 2015 14:59:41
King this king that, he will never be any where near the club for 2 reasons, he wanted the club for zilch, that is never going to happen as taylor, park and letham have put thier money where thier mouth is and with his current plight with the SA authorities, the SFA will not entertain him.
2.) God I hope this is true! Light at the end of the tunnel with our club returning to the hands of real supporters. Long way to go.
3.) 02 Jan 2015 15:54:43
Complete nonsense easdale never had a proxy vote for laxey! It's blue pitch and margarita he has proxy vote for, so I don't know where you got that story from,
4.) Holly, blue pitch n margarita only hold 10% and easdale 3% so where does the rest of his 26% proxy's come from?
5.) Hooly your post is factually incorrect. Easedale has never confirmed the name of proxy voting right instead it hides behind the name Beaufort Nominees. There is nothing which confirms these to be Blue Pitch or Margarita Holdings nor Laxey. I get my info fron solid people and if you look back I posted about Kings £18M plan long before it was public knowledge. As for comment 1. Bah Humbug to you too. You don't have a scoobie. King is not being investigated over the tax deal, a department of Sars the SA tax office is over deals they made. That was paper talk from a well know anti rangers journo who misrepresented the story, King is very much involved in what's going on. Ian Harte for example, you will see from a google search has always pledged aligence to Douglas Park. Latham, Taylor and Park were 3/8 men behind Kings fronted offer. King won't take a seat on the board the SFA can't block him just like they couldn't stop convicted fraudster Tweedle Dumb Sandy from investing.
6.) Hooly in fact BP and margarita have 7% between them n seleasdale has 4. 2% so who else did he have proxy for?
7.) 02 Jan 2015 17:49:55
Norman Crichton voted on behalf of laxey I would say
8.) NBTS. Looks like you have something ther bud.
9.) Norman Chrighton was only on the board from 14 November 2013 to 10 December 2014, did laxely not vote out with then?
10.) 02 Jan 2015 20:31:57
Fingers crossed
11.) 02 Jan 2015 20:34:56
Hope your right lads, with king and the 3bears how many percent do they have now? Surely easdale and somers will be voted of board
12.) King buys 15% of the club http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30661103
I think some owe King and I a wee apology. Happy New Year WATP
{Ed001's Note - I think I do too, not sure if I ever did mention it on here, but I certainly didn't think he would ever act. So I have to apologise either way, he has done the right thing, at last.}
13.) At NBS above, Hooly 78 is correct that Blue Pitch and Margarita Holdings have transferred their proxy votes to Sandy Easdale. This can be proven by the TR 1 Notification of Major Interest in Shares forms below.
My question is the same as others where and who has the other 10.1m Shares which Sandy Easdale has proxy over to make up the 26% voting rights.
14.) 03 Jan 2015 07:34:19
OP ) looking like a very good shout on your behalf mate, if as you say Somers gone by Monday it could be Xmas all over again, and totally agree a wee apology should be winging it's way in yours and Mr kings direction from some who dismissed this completely out of hand. Best rumour on here for sometime now.
15.) I am glad King is now on board he never wanted the club for next to nothing he wanted his money to go directly into the club as an investment rather than into existing shareholders pockets hence his £16 mill offer but it was blocked in favour of Ashley so he was left with no other option than buy the shares which he has so let hope and pray this is the start of our recovery let's not get to excited yet these leeches will not give up the carcass easily there will be a few twists and turns yet but maybe just maybe we are heading in right direction
16.) I also owe king an apology but before making it I will wait to see how things pan out what I cannot understand is the money that it has cost compared to what it would have cost to buy club out liquidation then raised money the same as green who basically just scraped up enough money to buy club this would have saved the amount of money used or misused as case maybe the club would have been in a strong position today some of the contracts given to players are horrendus with good management would not have happened although ally must shoulder the some of the blame for this
17.) Would this list not be an admission of closely working together, which unless they want to make an offer for everyone's shares is what they would want to avoid?
{Ed039's Note - King does not have a consortium, he has purchased shares through an entitiy that is owned 100% by the King family trust or something to that effect)
18.) I know that Ed039, but in the original post it lists Kings inverters as Park, Letham and Terry among others, so I take it this refers to his proxy?
12 Nov 2014 11:02:26
Mike Ashley lends Rangers another £1M in an amendment to his initial £2M loan offer. He has also handed back naming rights to the stadium to the club. Statement to stock exchange. Nice gesture from Mr Ashley.
1.) Yeah it seems to be a good sign but I wonder if it is a gesture of goodwill and intent or a clever PR stunt. I hate feeling this way but after so many false dawns.
17 Oct 2014 09:41:51
I have it on very good authority that the board will give Dave King a decision today 17/10/2014. King apparently gave them 7 days however they are ready to respond. I obviously have no inside info on the outcome but at double the going share price watch the trading site for any exchanges as an indication.
1.) 17 Oct 2014 12:32:26
It's not double the going share price though. It relies on a new issue of shares to dilute existing shareholders
2.) Its not double the price mate yopuve got that one wrong just like i did during the week
3.) Should King get his 51%, would the value of shares increase as a result of stability? or decrease as it's likely they'll be diluted in the share issue in which he buys his 51%?
4.) Nbts your good authority was wrong eh
13 Oct 2014 11:41:39
Financial Times reporting that unless Daniel Stewart settle their issues they will go under. Rangers would then need a new broker but with DS being their 4th since flotation most brokers wish to stay clear of Rangers as a client there is a real fear that without representation Rangers shares will be suspended on AIM.
1.) There is no fear of that aim rules would prevent that happening
29 Jun 2014 18:02:00
Hi guy Ross Perry has left the club. Bougherra to I sign after the world cup.
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02 Jan 2015 10:16:27
Hi, I think McCoist tensure can be summed up with the following. McCoist had the chance to sign of re-sign the following players Bauben, Gomez, Scott Allan, kevin thompson, David Clarkson and Tom Hateley who have all had great seasonw with their clubs. Instead he took an over weight Kris Boyd, a tired Kenny Miller and Bilel Moshni.
1.) Never has a manager of rangers had a record likw macoist for signing decent players and there performances went back the way not one player he signed have kicked on and improved that says it all about his tenure
2.) Look guys we can bang on and on about mccoist he was legend as player but simply worst manager to ever grace rangers end of
3.) Only Tom hately I would say would have been an improvement maybe gomis
4.) @3
Are you saying Scott Allan wouldn't have been an improvement?
5.) 02 Jan 2015 13:55:56
@3 Scott Allan was terrifying against us. Surely you would take Allan over Black or Law at present.
6.) 02 Jan 2015 13:58:37
All the players mentioned were all paper speculations there was nothing ever officially from Ibrox & Scott Allen said recently he was never approached by Rangers before he signed for hibs.
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7.) Nope he has had 1 very good game against rangers rest of the games he has been his usual selfish self with a horrible attitude. Kenny McLean should have been signed the guy couldn't have made it any clearer he wanted to join.
8.) Why are people saying we signed mohsni at the start of this season lol? we signed him for league 2
9.) League one sorry
10.) 02 Jan 2015 14:46:09
So, we, re still on mcoist then eh,? I'm bored to tears reading the same things day after day WE KNOW, he isn't a good manager, can we now try and move on,
11.) #2 worst Rangers manager ever? P. L. G anyone!
12.) Its close run thing on who was the worst
13.) 11] I'm afraid mcc is the worst by a distance. Paul le Guen forgot more than ally knew.
14.) PLG aways gets a hard time of it but in reality I think we missed a trick. He actually played some pretty attractive stuff but couldn't convert it into wins sadly. He was left hung out to dry by the players as he challenged their bad habits including fitness, diets etc - something which still goes on according to Faures revelations about Black eating all the cakes at half time. I think if he had time to fully implement is ideas he could have been really good for us and would undoubtedly in my opinion made better use of Murray Par than any of the other Managers we have had. Ultimately at a club like Rangers time isn't something most managers are afforded but i'd take him back in a heartbeat.
20 Nov 2014 13:35:31
This action taken against Whyte is more important to the new new company than you may think. As I stated on here previously if it is found guilty of fraud assests such as ibrox and Murray Park, Edminston House and Car Park would be recovered as proceeds of crime. (We will to save some agro drop the sir) David Murray could argue that under the law he was the victim and argue the assessts are returned
"A fraud victim’s right to recover money or property, or their equivalent in monetary damages, from
another person—and the remedies by which he can recover them—requires that the person obtained
that money or property unlawfully (i. e. , by conduct that violates one or more laws). A person who
violates the law—either by conduct that is prohibited or by failing to fulfill a duty—is legally obligated to
redress the injury or loss caused to the victim by that violation. The victim enforces that obligation to
redress his loss through specified remedies that correspond to different legal offenses.
Thus, to recover the proceeds of fraud, you must show that the loss was caused by unlawful conduct. In
practical terms, this means you must be able to recognize which laws were potentially violated, and you
must be able to match the facts and circumstances of a specific loss to one or more legal causes of
action. This will be your legal theory of recovery".
If this were to happen those loans secured the assests would be worthless and Ashley would call in the debt instantly without their security.
1.) Nbts - I don't think he victim in this case will be SDM, he got exactly what he asked for in compensation when he sold to CW
think you may find one of the main victims is Ticketus who lost 25+M in all of this deal and are still trying to get CW in court
where that leaves the assets, who knows,
maybe ask bomber he might know!
JG
2.) 20 Nov 2014 16:34:34
Good post JG,SDM got the nicker he wanted for the Club,so I don't know what is fraudulent about that.Whyte ripped off Ticketus and failed to appear at Court for that,that's another warrant out. If he used Ticketus money to pay Rangers debt at the time,it shouldn't affect SDM.
3.) 20 Nov 2014 16:55:25
craig whyte as part of the deal from david murray was ment to give mccoist 5 million to invest then further 20 million over 4 years to be invested and improvements were supposed to be maid to stadium none of this happened
so in my eyes the contract has been broken buy whyte so sale should be classed null and void
4.) NBTS: You appear to know your legal stuff. Do you think if/when Ticketus win their case against Whyte, and he can't come across, they could get the assets?
5.) Easily sorted lads, murray could give the ouline agreement that was made or maybe that would not suit.
6.) @3-apart from ally getting his £5million!
7.) 20 Nov 2014 19:31:00
Ticketus have admitted that they never did the proper background checks on Whyte. So if they were to try and grab assets couldn't the shareholders of old co sue them for damages?
{Ed039's Note - No I don't think so, all of these claims would land directly at the feet of Craig Whyte and not any other Rangers current or former shareholders)
8.) @3: Brilliant, the Bobby Ewing scenario. Still hoping to wake up some morning to find it was all a bad dream. It's not going to happen.
9.) @3] If you believe that was a clause in the contract, I hope Santa is good to you. Absolutely no chance, maybe that was a 'gentleman's agreement' but would not stand as a condition. Gentleman's agreement, how far is that from the truth?
Again I say, murray could clarify things by showing the outline of agreement.
Absolutely no chance, why? Ask dm.
10.) 20 Nov 2014 23:14:04
no dreaming just a point if this was in the contract then there could be come back there has been sum serious wrongdoing at our club we can not even get a loan against our training complex or stadium it has all been a stitch up and still happening rite now the sooner the fans realize this the better then we mite all be able to do sum thing about it before the take anymore off us good luck to police in there investigation there going need it to un wrangle all this mess that we are left with
11.) Blueice - CW did not own rangers and had no right to sell ST's in advance when he defrauded Ticketus, that was the fraud, that's why ticketus are after CW and he has a warrant issued
If CW still owned rangers assets yes they could go after those but he doesn't, so they have no claim on anything to do with Rangers
JG
JG
12.) 21 Nov 2014 12:00:43
No JG Ticketus had owneship rights over the clubs assests. The case being brought it whether Whyte obtained the club by fraud at a time when Murray owned the assests. If Murray was led to believe Whyte was funding his bid with his own case when in fact he was borrowing against the future revenue of property he did not own i.e ticketus/club season ticket money, then Murray would be the victim of fraud (in the eyes of the law gentlemen, I am not saying Murray is a victim only stating the legallity) My main point is Whyte then sold the assests to Charles Green, Regardless if Green then in turn ripped of Whyte, the assests themselve have changed hands for money. The assests and the monies earned by Whyte were obtained by illegal means and are recoverable under the proceeds of crime. It woul then be for Murrray to raise his case that he is the victim and rightfull owner.
13.) Nbts - don't agree mate
1, it was proven ticketus had no right to st sales, that's why they got heehaw from the last three years sales and are chasing collyer bristow and cw, it was not rangers that did the deal with them, it was cw before he owned rangers, no way can ticketus have claim on any rangers assets
2 cw never sold the assets to green, it was d&p who sold the assets and for a fee of 5.5m, cw sold his shareholding for what it was worth, for 2 quid (if stories are true)
JG
14.) 21 Nov 2014 16:58:36
My post was mean tto read "No JG Ticketus had no owneship rights over the clubs assests".
15.) Mibee now that they're all getting lifted. they will all start spilling the beans to save their asses from the jail. you might even find out whose name is on the deeds,. gary
16.) @10: "no dreaming. "?
Yes, dreaming.
Even if there was such a clause, no court in the land is going to undo the last three years or so. It would be a legal minefield.
You're going to have to accept that no one is going to come along with a magic wand.
20 Nov 2014 09:01:22
king & Kennedy V Ashley/Easedale - I have read all the latest. I have to be honest I do not believe a word that comes out of Sandy Easedales mouth, he has only come out denying what was said to cover his own back in event the complaint made to the stock exchange with regards to his influence over the board is upheld. Here is where I stand Derek Llambias and Barry Leach are cleearyl reviewing the business right now, I believe they are in the evaluate the club for Ashley. I will give them the time to do so and for them to report back to Mike Ashley and for him to then respond to the SFA but more importantly let us the fans know what his intentions are. If its something solid, a financial 3 year plan with funding great. If its just series of loans secured against assessts to tide us over for a few years then he can shove it and I will support a full boycott. I think we should all allow give it until end of January. More and more fans I speak with won't renew season tickets next year regarless whether its the SPL or not as they have had enough and want clarity. The board must now respond and be clear or I believe the fans will boycott on a bigger scale next season.
1.) I don't believe a word that anybody involved in this saga says, not just Sandy Easedale.
P. S. I see in the a newspaper that David Murray and Dave King are now having a go at each other. Maybe we'll find out some interesting truths in the next few weeks.
06 Nov 2014 15:15:07
Some of the rumours and stuff on here are going way too far next people will be claming Mike Ashley will lend us £20M in return he gets to use Auchenhowie as warehouse for cheap sports clobber.
1.) Thats plenty
31 Oct 2014 11:59:56
Hi Fellow Rangers family members, I do not wish to tell you what you should do, or patronise you.
Many will know I have been vocal on here over my concerns. And alll though like most of you I have had enough of the nonsense. And after the initial disappointment of King & Latham not getting control. I have had a chance to cool off and think with a rational mind so here it is.
Mike Ashley why Rangers? the guys got billions. Rangers is pocket change profit. So I began to think what else could he want. Although I have no time for Easedale and Sommers they both say he wants to help. But you can see it in there eyes that they dying to tell you something they know that we don't. It is almost like excitement and confidence. Then I heard something which makes sense. WWE owner Vince McMahon has already agreed a deal in principal to take Newcastle off his hands at the end of the season. Ashley has to be careful not to burn bridges with the SFA so is having to do things in a roundabout way. Ashley is notorious for "parking his tanks of the lawn" of something he wants but also for making it succesfull.
On looking at things from both side I have decided to let Ashley's reputation speak for him. Things can't get any worse than they are already and we really have nothing to lose. Admin 2 we start again with King, kennedys & Latham. And if Ashley does fund the dominance of Rangers in Scotland again then we will all be happy. So I am staying on the rollercoaster and hoping for the best.
GP was right, never give up. We don't do walking away. If we do now we will always be mocked by you know who.
I want to also say, let's all stop finally pretending we know stock markets and business let's all just get back to being football supporters and getting behind our team ready for SPL return. Its been a tough 3 years but its now only months away.
Follow, Follow.
1.) 31 Oct 2014 19:39:26
@ NBTS can't do any harm to give him a chance, well said and welcome back follow follow.
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2.) 31 Oct 2014 20:24:02
NBTS:Fine speech,now what do we do??
One thing,who's this GP character?
3.) 31 Oct 2014 20:44:39
Admin2 doesn't mean King etc. Liquidation could mean that. Admin would allow the current board and shareholders to continue whilst dumping certain contracts and employees. It would also allow MA to take full control (100%) of Rangers Retail.
4.) Nbts, I can honestly say this post has gave me hope for our future. We might not agree at times but at the end of the day we are united in one thing, The Glasgow Rangers. Splintered we are, we have opinions that are diverse but we must pull together to achieve our goal. That is to see our team go forward and promote the club's reputation in world football. Unfortunately, the financial world is a cut throat business, but leave that in the boardroom and follow our team.
Like yourself I have opinions and still think Ally is a dud, but like yourself I will bite the bullet.
5.) Billy I will wait to see what mr Ashley has to say ie his plans for our club before I make a commitment
6.) 31 Oct 2014 21:52:38
Op, good shout mate think we should give MA chance, and believe me i'm as sceptical as the next on what his motives are but something has to give, we are on the bones of our @rse, Ibrox is a shabby reflection of its former self, the football on display ranks on a par to the early 80s and us fans are so fractious we bicker and snipe at each other for having a personal opinion, maybe just maybe MA sees something other than asset strip I do think champions league football is a possibility in the not to distant future but there is always the likelihood that sky TV who pretty much dictate what happens in British football may try to restructure leagues incorporating us and the other crowd and beyond that the ever talked about European league (ok maybe drink taking over a wee bit) As of yet we don't know what he's planning for us let's just pray it's something that will unite us And make us proud to follow our great club. WATP
7.) That rumour about wwe has been about since jan. Newcastle have denied any approach from Vince who since the time of the rumour, has lost his billionaire status due to the share price of wwe dropping by $11 at one point. It might have gone up again (not checked), but I'm willing to bet that $11 that he won't be buying NU anytime soon.
8.) If you "have decided to let Ashleys reputation speak for him" then why not have a quick glance at Newcastles equivalent website to this for a true measure of his reputation!
Im not suggesting this to be smug mate it just deeply concerns me the number of like minded people on here who are willing to welcome this character with open arms. We have all manor of high profile names in the media almost on a daily basis now warning the rangers fans about Ashley, the latest being the Wigan chairman today.
We have a heaven sent opportunity to show Ashley and the whole world we want to run our own club by organising a blanket boycott of this semi final. What better way to send out a message of intent to a man who is undoubtedly devoid of even the slightest emotional feeling for our Rangers
9.) 01 Nov 2014 17:35:54
Sour grapes by the wigan chairman I think he was quite happy a few year back when his sports company were making a fortune out of Rangers merchandise.
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10.) Does not matter which club they always fans who are unhappy with the directors we wanted change we have it maybe not everyones cup of tea but neither was king and as far as it gooes i reckon with king a little to late or deep pockets short arms we must give ashley a chance he makes no bones he wants to make money and fiscally he will run rangers correctly but we must forget boycotts and get behind the club and see where we go
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King buys 15% of the club http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/30661103
I think some owe King and I a wee apology. Happy New Year WATP
{Ed001's Note - I think I do too, not sure if I ever did mention it on here, but I certainly didn't think he would ever act. So I have to apologise either way, he has done the right thing, at last.}
Hooly your post is factually incorrect. Easedale has never confirmed the name of proxy voting right instead it hides behind the name Beaufort Nominees. There is nothing which confirms these to be Blue Pitch or Margarita Holdings nor Laxey. I get my info fron solid people and if you look back I posted about Kings £18M plan long before it was public knowledge. As for comment 1. Bah Humbug to you too. You don't have a scoobie. King is not being investigated over the tax deal, a department of Sars the SA tax office is over deals they made. That was paper talk from a well know anti rangers journo who misrepresented the story, King is very much involved in what's going on. Ian Harte for example, you will see from a google search has always pledged aligence to Douglas Park. Latham, Taylor and Park were 3/8 men behind Kings fronted offer. King won't take a seat on the board the SFA can't block him just like they couldn't stop convicted fraudster Tweedle Dumb Sandy from investing.
02 Jan 2015 14:55:34
Don't see it he only moved to Slask Wroclaw in April and is contracted so who is paying his transfer fee?
McCoist knew McCleod was leaving, he also knows that Law and Bell were to be sold as well. I reckon McLeod was fit for weeks and McCoist was told not to risk playing him. I reckon this was one of his main reasons for handing in his resignation. I think even he relaised he can't win the league without players like Mcleod, so dediceded what's the point.
Returning Ger "I understand the Three Bears have in the region of 19. 6 percent" this was Laxey's cut, however George Taylor who's name is on the share purchase from the stock exchange statement already owns 5%, Latham also holds shared, it is believed together they own around 27% of the club. The BuyRangers and other fan held schemes have more than 10% between them. At vote on the board the group would see out the existing board and with their own men in place would hold all the Aces.
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09 Jun 2015 16:38:48
Some need to simmer down over King. We are weeks in to his regime. Coming in and picking up the mess left by the previous incubants who made a disaster of running our club. So many quick to critise a man who has previously put £20M in to our football club, lost it and is back for me. Some need to think back would you rather give King a chance or let Easdale and Ashley back in the door. Stop being spoilt brats, back the board back your club.
03 Jan 2015 11:02:53
Hi big red, Not long. Dave King and three bears have really caught the board by suprise Kings got a score to settle with Somers and Sandy over their behavior on the previous offer. I met Mr King only once he does not mince his words he will know that the spivs may sell more of the family silverware to Ashley for loans. Now he has made his move I reckon he will do what is required to see Ashley and his puppets out of the door. If not King will formally join with Latham Taylor and Park to compulsive buy out the remaining shares which he does not want as it would £6M i'm shareholders pockets he has set aside for restructuring the club. But it is an option to see out the board and Ashley
02 Jan 2015 19:57:55
I was wrong King bought shares from rtemis, Miton and River and Mercantile.
02 Jan 2015 19:23:21
Nows the time pack the stadium. I will be there after 4 months of painful abscence. Back the team make it loud get behind the players. If we give them a wee lift i'm sure it will go a long way.
02 Jan 2015 18:47:33
Ed, you missed my point. Its more likely King has held talks with Easedale and Ashleys men before buying shares on the priviso King buys them out Kings too shrewd to have bought 15% without having done some ground work. What I was told was That the events this week were all part of his consortiums bid for secure control. Of Kings 8 Latham, Taylor and Park were 3 of if that is true they now collectivley own 40% and King will secure futher shares in the new share issue.
{Ed039's Note - ok, that wasnt clear)