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08 Jan 2015 08:44:22
BBC sport is saying our American friend has upped his bid to 20mill with an additional 6. something in loans to clear the clubs debts.

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1.) Surely they have got to accept this 20m is way more than the clubs worth right now.


2.) Why accept as ed said look at american owners in englad learner at villa one at sunderland the first two at liverpool the glaziers they either borrowed far to much money or got fed up putting money in or att Manchester United if they don't get into champions league coupled what has been wasted on transfers and sponsor money dwindling it could be the biggest fire sale ever


3.) Why not accept do you want to keep living off silly loans then get everything took from us this is the best news we have had in ages we should bite his hand off at this chance. He is also willing to work with king and the 3 bears.


4.) Look at wages in England and chances of champions league. Look at Arsenal. I say give the yank a chance couldn't get any worse


5.) Bigwull what evidence do you see that Ashley is the man to take usb forward. he is never going to put anything into Rangers without getting security on our assets. the shirt deal where we get 75p for every shirt is the most ridiculous contract I have ever heard of. ok we don't know much about sarver but to me it looks like this is last chance saloon for us.


6.) Said it before. Ashley's plan is to continue to give us loans secured against remaining assets (Ibrox & MP).

He'll then pull the plug at a point where he's left with the assets and we end up with a football team which has to pay rent to him for Stadium and Training facilities.

Personally. I'd go back to playing and training in a public park and screw him!


7.) Bigcol I do not favour ashley but I cannot see why he is being demonised he turned round newcastle that had horrendus debts he does no pay excessive wages and they seem to get value for money in transfers newcastle fans are unhappy because he does not blow fortune in transfer fees I would really prefer three bears but would not see a problem if ashley gained control big col on other can u tell me why not ashley

{Ed001's Note - Newcastle were not in any danger at all, that is just false propaganda issued from Ashley. Newcastle fans are unhappy because the club makes large amounts of money that go straight into Ashley's pockets and because he openly admits he has no interest in them being competitive in any competition. His only aim is to avoid relegation. Even the cups he dismisses as meaningless. Oh and he quite openly dismisses the fans too. Keegan has said privately and publicly that he honestly believes that a number of Ashley's decisions were based on just getting his own back on the fans that question him.}


8.) I never said they were in any danger but they had horrendus debt and sir j hall wanted out but the debt was far more than what was shown

{Ed001's Note - not true, that is Ashley propaganda.}


9.) Ed that's entirely possible but in scotland where there is no fantastic tv money to be profitable he must get into champions league and again with a good manager it would not cost a fortune and I am sure its a whole lot better than where we find ourself now in essence I would prefer 3 bears bt if it was ashley I would not have a problem but I still find it funny when 3 bears and ing start buying shares and yank appears on scene remember king and co could do a deal with yank as easily board

{Ed001's Note - he has no interest in that, it is about selling sportswear. You don't have a clue.}


10.) 08 Jan 2015 10:35:34
Have just read Sarvers comments re his upped bid to take a controlling share in the club and have to say he seems a genuine fella prepared to stump up the cash, prepared to work with king, and the 3 Bears, wants to get us back as an elite club again, his intentions seem pretty transparent, basically everything Ashley isn't, let's not make the same mistake as with Millar before, his moves should be welcomed with open arms by anyone and everyone who has any love for this club.


11.) Does the shirt deal not ring the alarm bells bigwull?


12.) Ashley trying to put another two of his men on the board


13.) Ed I do have a clue if the club is left to languish there will be very little merchandise sales so what good would ashley get out of that because I am quite sure sales are well down on previous years I am quite certain he wants champions league exposure otherwise there will be little profit for him they way things would end up so why would he want control some fans are convinced he would want to call in his loans and flatten ibrox there would be no cudos in that for him unless I have missed something

{Ed001's Note - you really don't have a clue, you think he is going to spend fortunes for little gain, if any. Merchandise sells either way, even when you were in the bottom division. This man has never shown any history of investing money long term, it has always been about running everything he owns for as little as possible to maximise his personal profit. He has no interest in competing and you are just dreaming out of sheer lack of any kind of knowledge of the financial costs it would take compared to the amount of gain that would be received. There is a reason why they say if you want to make a small fortune out of football you have to start with a large one....}


14.) Ed I know he won't spend a fortune I also reckon with the right manager I don't think we need a fortune after the debt is cleared and club run correctly by the way I never said I expected him to spend a fortune king and the the 3 bears I don't think will spend a fortune the state of our challenge to win league is totally down to macoist we have on or two good players who with better coaching would do all I want is for the club to be made viable and go from there with continued fans share purchase that's what I want most of all because the amount of fans that want a white knight to come in and spend spend spen are deluded nowadays they don't exist rangers first to me would be the best way forward


15.) Bigwull. you ask any fair minded fan if they think a white knight will come in and through money about and the answer would be no. celtic are now the bench mark for how our club should be run.


16.) ED you are correct this guy will go on believing his own opinion until Ashley has loans against every single Rangers asset. The fact he cannot just man up and admit every fact you presented to him totally ended his stupid argument is typical of why we ended up with mccoist and this board this long, fans that are so easily deluded by some bs from the board and believe anything they read without checking the actual facts. You cannot win when a person is this stubborn and naive about their own incorrect opinion. I gave up arguing with unreasonable people over a year ago in their world if it barks and it has a tail it has to be a cat as the board and Ashley said so! So frustrating but everyone even people that are totally wrong are allowed their opinion.

redsox555


17.) Big col totally agree but some don't first and foremost I want the club to be run as a viable buisness and go from there I don't trust the american offer because I does not stack up and it may involve m ashley I prefer 3 bears and king but if the worst came to it I would accept ashhley make the club viable and go from there hopefully with more rangers first involvement


18.) Redsox I am entitled to my opinion and don't need to man up agee something I don't beleive if u read my consistantly I want rangers to be a viable buisness whih ashley would do and again beleive more fan participation by way of share purchase but please do not tell me to alter my opinion to suit the views of others and how u can say my opinion landed us with macoist and the board the board are only in the job because no one offered any more money than green and if the 3 bears and king had put there hands in there pockets much earlier it would not have cost them as much and we would not have the board I certainly don't beleive everything I beleive and certainly not when posted by u


19.) Redsox I have read another of your posts if u think if ashley loses he will sit down agre a way out of the merchandise deal u really are deluded ashley will fight all the way and no way will he give up deal unless he gets a stack of money the shirt deal will run to the end of the contract


20.) Your opinion and that is fine I just totally disagree :-) though on Ashley he is a nightmare as he can afford to be a total bitch and loan silly amounts with this person boards agreement and securing MP and Ibrox if he really wants to be a cnut. he will have to reconsider on kit deal though if as I expect all Bears stop buying any kit from his outlets I will never buy anything from Sports Direct EVER far less a Rangers kit. I will be buying whichever kit sends money to our team if that is an option or I will wear my 60s retro top and old scarf until Ashley deal runs out or is cancelled. Feel sorry fr Bears with young kids as hard to explain why not buying them kit.

redsox555


21.) 08 Jan 2015 16:25:28
i do not no how people can defend Mike Ashley Newcastle owe him millions in loans yet he takes all there tv money plus the majority from player sales does not care if they are competitive in the league or cups as long as he doesn't get relegated he is happy are people seriously willing to give him the chance to do the same to us

for rangers to be successful and operating in profit or breaking even
we are going to have to be in champions league group stages and bringing players threw and selling them on for larger fees and to get to this sort of standing again the club needs significant investment and am afraid Ashley will not provide the sort of funds needed to completely overhaul the club


22.) Ashley has seen newcastle relegated and never batted an eyelid, as he still made money, they won promotion and parachute payments filled his coffers (players earned less I championship)

dont think ashley needs newcastle in epl, its just more attractive prospect to sell when it is, but still has £120m debt to him either way


23.) Bigwull, what do you think about mr prior, he said get Ashley out, and rip up his contract re retail, he said let Ashley take the club to court, to see how the courts look at this contract, I agree with mr prior, I think a court would rule in favour of the club. maybe tell both parties to sit down and work something out.


24.) Bigwull I should also have said mr prior is a very intelligent man, iq, knows his stuff, a very good clever bisiness man


 

 

 

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I believe Craig Halkett, Calum Gallagher, Tom Walsh and Robbie Crawford all came back with Barry McKay, Luca Gasparotto & Danny Stoney all still out on loan. I could be wrong though as we obviously will never see them until they leave for free!

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17 Dec 2014 09:51:48
New rumour- Apparently Billy Davies is being lined up as a replacement if an agreement is made with Super Ally.

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