01 Sep 2016 08:41:43
Alright guys,

Whats everyones thought on trying a 3 at the back?

Wilson - Senderos - Kiernan

WIth Wallace and Tav playing as wingbacks. I think this could be a good system for playing against teams (hopefully) when we get to Europe. This would also suit a midfield pairing like Barton and Rossiter or Halliday. With 2 upfront probably Garner, as he looks willing to throw himself about, win in the air and hold up play. Which you could literally float, Waghorn, Windass, Holt, Forrester or MoH of him?

Think its worth a shout when teams are set up to counter 4-3-3.

1.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 09:01:36
No thanks, why would we change our structure to accommodate both Wilson and Kiernan, two players that are the weakest in the team. They will both be lucky to get a game once everyone is fit if other players play to their full capability.

I for one want to see what Crooks is capable of and if he could play at centre back he would come into the side for me ahead of both Kiernan and Wilson.

Perhaps if we had better centre backs than Kiernan and Wilson it would be an option but, as we have seen before, playing these two guys together weakens the side.

2.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 09:29:54
Don't see how they are the weakest in the team based on this seasons performances. Haliday has by far looked the weakest player to me we do literally nothing when he's in midfield. Neither the two have made any mistakes but they still continue to get slaughtered by fans and I don't understand why. Also we will never change from 4-3-3 the whole time MW is managing us and that's just his pholosophy on how football should be played. Doesn't matter if you're watching a first team game, an under 20's or an under 10's its all 4-3-3 (maybe not the under 10's but you get what I mean)

3.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 09:44:54
While I like the 3-5-2 formation it has a major flaw, which is that it can be destroyed by fast wingers. All you do is play balls over the top to them or diagonal balls out wide for them to run on to. This is why Lovenkrands did so well against Celtic.

The fact that Celtic have quick and skillful wingers makes this formation a big no no for me.

4.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 10:27:47
Ross - it doesn't have to be Plan A, we need a Plan B for when things aren't going our way with our system. I believe 4-3-3 is the way to go against most opposition. Just 3-5-2 would be a good way of countering teams that are countering 4-3-3 haha!

Boss - I agree about the Celtic thing, 4-3-3 is a good system to play against them, they'll come out and play and give us space.

5.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 11:07:16
it's laughable that you say Wilson is one of the weakest in the team. I take it you don't watch the games? he is usually one of our better players and has to cover for the rest of our awful defence.

6.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 11:07:18
Kk11

4-1-3-2.

7.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 11:28:53
We have many plans, you just can't see them because you aren't clued up enough about the team. Players and positions are rotated and tinkered constantly as well as substitutions with the key aim to change something within the game. If you don't change the formation it doesn't mean you don't have a plan b.

8.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 11:31:41
Cee's bang on I remember about 6-8 months ago on here everyone was having a go at Wilson and I had to defend him vigorously I'm glad to see now that he's starting to get some recognition. Always felt RK was the weaker of the two although I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as people make out. Not a single person who criticises them takes into account how we played last season and the majority of the time there opinion is formed on games from last season. Our defence has been solid this season look at Celtic leaking goals all over the place yet its us who are worrying about conceding a lot of goals at s***head. We have been poor going forward and its about time people realised that. Will take another few weeks till we hit our stride but when we do you'll all calm down.

9.) 01 Sep 2016
01 Sep 2016 11:56:09
Ross I agree with what you say most of the time but Kiernan is not a Rangers class CB. He lacks the mental side of the game and his decision making is not up to standard. Wilson will go on to be the best CB in the league when he gets the right partner in beside him and I just hope it's Senderos.
The only time Wilsons had any criticism in his career is by playing bedside Kiernan. The minute the ball is anywhere near Kiernan you can fell the tension in the stands and that is simply not good enough. When the ball went near a Gough or Amoruso you knew they would clear it no matter what and so did the whole crowd. The CB's are meant to instil confidence in the players in front of them, Kiernan instills sheer terror in the players and fans.
If MW decides Keirnan is the better of the two and plays him with Senderos over Wilson I would have to seriously doubt his judgement as every fan I know is dying for the guy to be benched to put us out our misery.