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28 May 2023 19:32:27
Any rumours on ben Davies and rabbi Matondo leaving? Glad if they go and get some money back.
1.) 28 May 2023 19:58:54
Wouldn’t be surprised if either were sold. Think Davies is more likely than Matondo but both may be moved on in the summer or both may stay.
2.) 28 May 2023 20:41:23
There would need to be a bid first and there’s nothing to suggest there has been. Rangers paid a far some of money for both these players, and Imimagine they’re on good wages too. Both have had poor seasons so I find it highly unlikely that we would get that financial outlay back. Really bad business from the club again.
Last summer was a disaster.
3.) 28 May 2023 20:58:41
Davies to Brentford being banded about at Brentford, Matondo will stay.
4.) 28 May 2023 20:59:24
I think matondo might come good with more game time.
5.) 28 May 2023 20:59:58
Davies will be gone if a suitable offer that both the club and player agree to, it's not that he doesn't like it here or wether we think he's good enough or not he's got family issues that have affected him this season and he wants to be back down south with family.
6.) 28 May 2023 21:27:09
Both will stay.
7.) 28 May 2023 21:45:19
Davies wants to be closer to family with his ill partner. Rangers willing to listen to offers to allow the player to go.
8.) 28 May 2023 22:10:46
Both maybe be moved on in the summer or both may stay lol brilliant ?.
9.) 28 May 2023 22:49:42
I don't get this about Matondo. Think the lad has looked like he has something about him in the last few games. Think it would be a huge mistake letting the lad go as think he will come good for us.
10.) 28 May 2023 23:35:37
Don’t get why folk want rid of Davies either would be a great back up next season say we gif rid of him that leaves us with Jon and Conner the only senior cb at the club wee need another cb in and is Davies leaves we would need 2.
11.) 29 May 2023 03:05:37
@Rfc22
Goldson has sustained an injury that’ll keep him out for several months. Souttar is injury prone and it’s doubtful he’ll remain fit for a team that plays twice a week beyond Christmas. Davies doesn’t seem to have the physicality for Scottish football, or the mentality to handle those high pressure games against Celtic. I’d argue we already need another 2 CBs.
We will absolutely sign at least one CB. My guess is that if we can sell Davies, then we will. However, I imagine he’s on good wages so It certainly won't be easy.
12.) 29 May 2023 07:04:17
I honestly think Davies is get far too much stick it was a high profile error in the Celtic game sure. But his performances in the lead up to that game were not bad. He's also capable of being used as a more defensive lb which could be handy in Europe.
13.) 29 May 2023 07:34:19
Verdant have you taken a misery pill mate. How is it really bad business again by our club. No bid made for Davies or Matondo and you've no idea what we will get for them if and when an offer comes in.
14.) 29 May 2023 12:26:10
Verdant if we sign 2 cb better than Davies they will need to be 1st choice cb do you thing Jon and Conner will be happy on the bench?
08 May 2023 16:50:57
Very concerned I received some information regarding the transfer market i'm hearing from a trustworthy source there's nothing more than 8M avaliable to the manager.
1.) 08 May 2023 17:13:31
Sounds about right tbh. That's why we seem to be favouring bosmans. Perhaps we'll sell a couple and get a few mill in to boost it.
2.) 08 May 2023 17:22:01
Sounds about right Fred, but if we sell maybe Kamara and maybe barisic then we should get another 3-5 m. If we don't take Tilman then that's another 3 I think. We'll save a huge amount on the wages of Kent, Morelos mcgregor, Davis, Hellander and probably look to shift out Wright and possibly Colak and mcglaughlin. We'll be looking at decent bosmans such as the boy from Norwich and maybe Maja, try to buy young hungry players for a few million like the arsenal centre back that's on loan in the mls and maybe a Nisbet/ Shankland that can do it in our bread and butter league. Hopefully devine and lowry come through and hagi fit again . Based on cantwell and Raskin, Beale has a good eye for a player. I really don't think we're a long way off celtic if we stop carrying the passengers and have a hungry team. I've quite liked Matondo in last couple if games, think Soutar will come really good for us and there is a small chance our best striker Roofe may stay fit for a season.
3.) 08 May 2023 17:22:11
I would be pleasantly surprised if it was as high as £8m.
4.) 08 May 2023 17:28:40
Fred86 strange considering Beale came out and said he has a bigger budget than any rangers manager in years. So that would make that statement false.
5.) 08 May 2023 17:43:18
8 plus a % of player sales isn’t bad.
Colak, Davies, Barasic, Hagi, Kamara, Lundstram, Sakala, Yilmaz, Matondo are all sellable assets and I’d expect at least 5 of them to be moved on.
6.) 08 May 2023 18:31:01
Our board need a kicking pissed away a lot we've earned.
7.) 08 May 2023 18:55:57
You would think some people on here would have the exact same source because there can't be that many. Plus I definitely wouldn't be asking that source again if none of these come. If they are that reliable then these should be a shoe in. Do you mean we are wanting these players.
8.) 08 May 2023 18:57:55
£8m they will be quaking in their boots over in the east end.
9.) 08 May 2023 19:43:10
Would keep Hagi and Yilmaz. Hopefully we could get our cash back for Davies (he's thought of highly down south) and a good profit on Kamara. Barasic, Sakala, Matondo and Lundstram we will struggle to get decent cash for. Need to cash in tho if possible and invest wisely.
10.) 08 May 2023 21:08:40
Did someone post that the money to sign Tillman was ring fenced and if that’s correct there must be more than £8 million in the transfer kitty?
11.) 08 May 2023 21:21:52
If the board didn't have to payout on legal fees we'd be OK from what iv read poss 4/ 5,m to elite if they settle add that to money paid to Ashley that's 11m complete incompetence.
12.) 08 May 2023 22:34:08
David why sell Yilmaz? very talented lb.
13.) 08 May 2023 19:56:28
Who would give you this information that it would make you believe it. Or Does it come to you in a dream or a vision.
14.) 08 May 2023 20:04:18
Would agree with that estimate, less than 10mill, then IF IF IF we are able to sell, some of that on top.
15.) 08 May 2023 20:34:11
I'd imagine any signing on fee for a free agent will be in the budget remember they add up too if its a decent player.
16.) 08 May 2023 21:07:23
Gms. Looks like Davies getting op and will be out till after window closes.
17.) 09 May 2023 12:33:39
If its any less that last years £12 million there should be a call for an investigation from the support. If you add that to the money that was ring fenced for Sands and Tillman which is about £10million plus sales and that is a decent budget.
18.) 09 May 2023 15:57:54
There are loads of free transfers available, spending money on a player doesn't mean he'll be a success.
14 Jul 2022 20:12:18
Two premier league clubs are interested in Bassey Aston villa and Brighton. Bassey has been in contact with Ajax over a potential move Rangers are wanting 25M nothing less but I would slap another 5M on that he is clearly wanted and is only 22 with years ahead if Rangers are clever here they could bank 30M from the sale of one player.
1.) 14 Jul 2022 20:29:28
Or Maybe they say they aren’t paying that for a player from Scotland a look elsewhere we lose 20 million lol.
2.) 14 Jul 2022 21:22:53
Bidding war ?.
3.) 14 Jul 2022 21:45:04
Dont think there is a 25-30 mill bid coming in.
The BUYING clubs have seen how we operate and won't go there.
It's all about add ons!
4.) 14 Jul 2022 21:47:41
Not seen it reported anywhere that Villa are interested Ajax and Brighton yes.
5.) 14 Jul 2022 22:01:07
We don't lose 20m. We keep a 20m+ rated player.
6.) 14 Jul 2022 22:22:28
Love bassey but lefts be honest he an amazing 6 weeks before that was hot and cold and start a the season couldn’t win a header young players form goes up and down grab 20 million if it is there because it’s the most we will get for any our players anytime soon and could invest in the squad.
7.) 14 Jul 2022 22:24:22
Any bid above 20 million the club can't turn down, 20% sell on as well and it would be a great deal for us.
8.) 14 Jul 2022 22:43:55
Agree Mark. No way we can turn down that, especially given how much Calvin cost us.
9.) 14 Jul 2022 22:53:40
I'd be very surprised if Ajax offered £20 million for a Scottish player, or any other player.
10.) 15 Jul 2022 06:04:07
Otterspocket, they just spent 26m for spurs player.
11.) 15 Jul 2022 06:10:04
How many years has Bassey left on contract?
12.) 15 Jul 2022 06:42:50
He has 2 years left on his contract stormtrooper.
13.) 15 Jul 2022 06:46:52
2 years Storm.
14.) 15 Jul 2022 07:54:17
Cool for some reason I thought it was maybe 1 so we really need to get him signed on a longer deal or sell him as next season the price will drop because he only has one year left then.
15.) 15 Jul 2022 08:04:49
Agree Storm. If we can get one more good season out of him his stock will be even higher next summer.
16.) 15 Jul 2022 08:41:58
Allegedly as well as ajax, brighton and aston villa interested in signing calvin bassey, i'm told west ham very interested along with 2 german clubs rumoured to be eintracht frankfurt and borussia dortmund ?It was also reported that RBLeipzig had shown an interest ?
If we are going to sell big shirley and money does talk, then for our sakes it's better being an auction and the more clubs vying for his signature the better for us, as we'll get a higher fee for him?.
17.) 15 Jul 2022 09:24:31
Walter his agent doing well. Throwing out names off clubs.
14 Jul 2022 13:59:16
The most ridiculous rumour I've seen so far is Reyna from dortmund on loan the guy is on 40k a week and valued at 25M.
1.) 14 Jul 2022 14:30:21
Are you forgetting we signed Diallo last year worth a similar value? I wouldn’t rule anything out - Reyna’s god father is Gio too.
2.) 14 Jul 2022 14:35:53
Fred how about Ramsey, 400k a week at juventus to rangers.
3.) 14 Jul 2022 14:42:14
Ramsey was £400k, anything in football can happen, although this one is extremely unlikely. There is no reason for Dortmund to pursue this. If he is struggling for form then there would be of leagues and teams better suited for his development. Not in a team where every win is crucial. Would doubt Man it’s would have been happy with the amount of minutes diallo got last season with us.
4.) 14 Jul 2022 14:58:24
I agree zikos, I don’t think it will happen
I have contact at Man U, they would actually like him to return to us, they feel he made progress and toughen up a bit, that’s why they wanted him to us
More work required re mental toughness and physical development.
5.) 14 Jul 2022 15:01:56
Don’t forget wee jd as well was on 65k a week.
6.) 14 Jul 2022 17:25:40
I don't think getting him in is to farfetched atall look at Ramsey, Defoe, Diallo on massive wages. But aren't Dortmund happy with him and starting him most games? In that case we have no chance.
7.) 14 Jul 2022 18:24:56
Only thing that with they 3 mentioned is that they were basically bombed out at the clubs they were at.
Reyna will be a starter for Dortmund most weeks if fit.
8.) 14 Jul 2022 18:54:34
Ramsey was on £175K not 400K.
9.) 14 Jul 2022 19:52:15
Tell that to juventus then.
10.) 14 Jul 2022 20:05:25
Gr7 Ramsey was in 400k mate
Reyna will not be at rangers.
11.) 14 Jul 2022 20:10:41
Reyna won’t be at rangers.
12.) 15 Jul 2022 10:12:32
The BBC reported 400K when he signed. His wage was 175K. Dybala is highest paid on 222K. This info is no hard to find. 400K per week is over 20 Million per year. Was he worth that when he left Arsenal?
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24 Apr 2024 12:09:19
Do you think it would be a good idea if we deliberately navigate our way to the europa conference league we have a high chance of winning it plus it will be 12M for the winners plus a cup all the qualifying rounds total 12M plus the ticket sales.
1.) 24 Apr 2024 12:27:42
A high chance? Not sure about that. Also champs league money is crazy this coming season which the club are very much in need of.
2.) 24 Apr 2024 12:57:41
Firstly, not sure rangers should be deliberately losing games just to end up in the Europa Conference.
Secondly, we should always be striving to test ourselves at the highest level possible.
And lastly, the semi-finals are contested by Villa ( 4th in the EPL ) , Brugges ( a team who have done well previously in the CL ) , Italian and Greek team.
No mugs at that level anymore.
3.) 24 Apr 2024 13:18:14
Are you joking? Why in God's name would we intentionally sacrifice the chance to play in the biggest club competition in the world to drop into a lower level? Also, "high chance of winning"?! Eh?
If ever a post wasn't thought out, this is it.
4.) 24 Apr 2024 13:23:08
I never want my club in that competion.
5.) 24 Apr 2024 13:45:11
We could make over 24 million from 8 games in c. l then potentially drop into europa, make more money. If we can't beat motherwell, rc and dundee how do we have a high chance of winning it? Any the 3 euro comps are full of quality at the later stages.
6.) 24 Apr 2024 15:04:36
No europa league drop down this year i don't think boy blue.
7.) 24 Apr 2024 16:37:37
Cool paul cheers mate ?.
8.) 24 Apr 2024 16:38:13
Paul I'm sure we do drop into el if we fail to qualify for cl.
9.) 24 Apr 2024 16:54:31
I’m fairly certain that ‘deliberately navigating’ a drop down into a different competition would be considered match fixing. No professional sportsperson, who by character, are hardwired to aim to win, would deliberately want to lose as a small fish in a big pond to win as a bigger fish in a smaller pond. I find this notion preposterous.
10.) 24 Apr 2024 18:26:06
This year in the conf league you have Aston Villa, Olyimpiacos, Fiorentena, Fenerbache, Ajax, Betis, Frankfurt. you say high chance, I say low chance, very low. Deliberately navigating into this comp, how would that work.
11.) 24 apr 2024 18:37:48
balderdash, nae, bunkum.
12.) 24 Apr 2024 19:32:45
Really is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here in a while Fred ?.
13.) 24 Apr 2024 19:44:19
Pretty sure Paul is right no drop into EL from group stages 1-8 straight into last 16 9-24 play off winners through 25-32 out of Europ.
14.) 24 Apr 2024 19:48:38
Nae nae Mr wilks.
15.) 24 Apr 2024 20:14:23
One walter yes but not if we make group stages.
16.) 24 Apr 2024 21:02:09
Up there with some of the worst posts I have seen.
17.) 24 Apr 2024 23:27:18
The champions league is just a leathering for us. Pointless. Money fine but to watch our team get kicked around like an empty fag packet is not enjoyable.
18.) 25 apr 2024 17:41:02
no, we had a terr8bke season due to a ridiculous amount of injuries, we've had some decent times in cl too, like almost making the first eve4 final before marseille cheated and we suffered.
23 Feb 2024 17:13:40
We must win the spl league to gain the riches of the revamped champions league and get the benefits of the financial gain because the 2026 season looks unlikely any Scottish team would get into the champions league cause the czec Republic will have better coefficient then us come 2026 so best enjoy the europa league for the next 5 years or so before we can claim an automatic spot in the champions league again.
1.) 23 Feb 2024 18:11:48
i thought it was what they had at the end of this season, maybe i am wrong.
2.) 23 Feb 2024 18:32:19
Do the winners play a qualifier if not straight into revamped group stage, do we lose the spot for upcoming season if the Czech teams leap frog us?
3.) 23 Feb 2024 19:19:41
Remember the ‘champions route’ in Champions League Qualification is easier than the ‘league path’. We would likely face the champions of Moldova etc and then Denmark or akin to that level as opposed to runners up of higher ranked leagues like PSV or Monaco etc.
4.) 23 Feb 2024 19:31:28
So you’re saying we couldn’t qualify through the knock out rounds? Like we did when Tillman scored the winner v PSV? That’s positive thinking ? Whilst we are nowhere near being a CL level club, I fully expect us to be participating in the competition in the coming seasons.
5.) 23 Feb 2024 19:37:09
The 2 Sparta's got Liverpool and Milan so don't think we should worry 2 much about the coefficient just yet.
6.) 23 Feb 2024 20:19:56
Whoever wins league this season goes straight in next seasons. But if we don’t outperform the other Czech teams then as of the season after it will be a qualifier.
7.) 23 Feb 2024 20:32:19
Fork they also have a team competing in the confrence league. Regardless of competition its all co efficient points.
8.) 23 Feb 2024 20:43:01
Fork their is another in the conference up against sevette.
9.) 23 Feb 2024 21:24:02
Its not for next season but the season after.
10.) 23 Feb 2024 22:02:13
Aye but if they two go out and we go through, it leaves one in the conference against us, one team a piece similar points, think we get 0.4 a win as it stands, Czechs get 0.5 cause they have 3 teams as it stands, I maybe be wrong but that's my understanding.
11.) 23 Feb 2024 22:09:27
The other Czech team is Viktoria Pizen.
12.) 24 Feb 2024 01:10:41
They might all get knocked out but still pick up enough points to take over us if we fail to win any of the two games, something to worry about in a year and a half a suppose, got enough on our plate starting at 3pm.
13.) 24 Feb 2024 08:22:54
That's all very well coops but means the 2 Sparta's need to draw or win against L/ pool and Milan, same applies to Viktoria Pizen/ Servette albeit for lesser points in conference, but your right 3 points today is a must.
13 Feb 2024 14:13:11
If butland gets sold in the summer it has to be 20M or above I honestly rate him that good he has atleast 4 years left in him before a decline would start for the average GK look at onana 45M for a keeper who is horrible if butland keeps up his fantastic saves between the sticks until the summer I could see epl teams come for him especially if he pulls off wonders in an England top then he must be 20M or more nothing less.
1.) 13 Feb 2024 14:16:50
Depends Fred if the 5 million release clause in his contract exists or not.
If it does then that's what we'd get for him.
2.) 13 Feb 2024 14:26:37
Fred, agree wholeheartedly, £20M at Least. The EPL can afford it easily, considering no 1 wanted him before we signed him.
Our green neighbours put rediculous prices on their players and receive it.
3.) 13 Feb 2024 14:42:41
I’m not sure where all this ‘Butland wants to leave’ chat has come from? He had the chance to leave for Forrest and he wasn’t interested.
Let’s say somebody does come in over the summer, Chelsea for talking sake and Butland wants to leave are you going to try and keep an unhappy player an unhappy player in the squad because you want a record transfer for a SPL keeper?
We’d risk no players committing to a long term contract with us again for fear of us not letting them talk to other clubs.
The guy is an outstanding keeper who I think will be at Ibrox for years but we can honestly expect to keep a player because we want £20m, he’ll be worth what another club are willing to pay for him and I don’t remember him having too many options in the summer there? Third choice at Man U?
4.) 13 Feb 2024 15:48:04
Doubt we'd get that much for him, hope to be proved wrong though. If we could get over £10m it would still be a fantastic piece of business.
5.) 13 Feb 2024 17:18:04
Dado Butland is the best British keeper in my opinion, much you selling him for?20m everyday of the week as far as I'm concerned.
6.) 13 Feb 2024 17:21:12
Dado, bang on mate, he will only ever be worth what someone is willing to pay. And for me that is not 20 mill. Assuming the 5 mill clause doesn't exist? I think anything close to 10 will be accepted.
7.) 13 Feb 2024 17:34:00
Is it not the case that its up to Butland whether he chooses to go, regardless of release cause, can't be forced to join a club he's not keen on surely.
8.) 13 Feb 2024 17:34:04
Bar, the 5 million clause doesn't exist. forest bid 8 million last month which was rejected.
9.) 13 Feb 2024 18:26:55
Butland has been covering for what is basically a crap defence. The thought of him going gives me the fear. I hope the defence is the first port of call in the summer. Well past sell by date.
10.) 13 Feb 2024 18:31:44
Best keeper in Britain? let the guy win a old firm first man.
11.) 13 Feb 2024 18:54:49
butland is the only player we can't afford to lose.
12.) 13 Feb 2024 19:22:44
Mark44 that's not the reason, the reason is that if a club comes in with a bid that meets a release clause the player needs to want to go.
Why would Jack Butland want to go to a club that will likely be relegated.
13.) 13 Feb 2024 19:24:23
I’m not sure my star, if he is the best British keeper why isn’t he in the England squad? Why didn’t anybody else try and sign him on a free? Why were Forrest the only EPL trying to sign him in January?
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a great keeper and I’m glad he’s playing for us but the best brittish keeper is a leap when he’s playing against SPL teams.
Just my opinion.
14.) 13 Feb 2024 19:27:57
Can think of 2 clubs, Chelsea and Man Utd who would want him. There keepers are not up to standard. Personally I would rather he wants to stay.
15.) 13 Feb 2024 19:49:55
If Butland continues to show his current form then, assuming he wants to move back to the EPL then I suspect he will fetch more than £10m. Just look at what has been paid out for keepers last summer and for me, Butland is as good if not better than a number of them.
16.) 13 Feb 2024 19:55:10
Because he never got played dado, you tell me a better British keeper right now, same question for you Raskin, also what has the old firm got to do with Butland and taking about his quality Raskin?
17.) 13 Feb 2024 20:12:09
He's certainly a better keeper than the current England first choice. Never understood why he is playing for England.
18.) 13 Feb 2024 20:17:38
Butland should already be offered a new bigger contract. When tav goes he should also be made captain.
19.) 13 Feb 2024 20:52:10
Correct dado.
It’s a crazy statement to make he is an amazing keeper but we seen to go way overboard when we get a good player.
Also no proof Notts F bid 8 million for him either.
20.) 13 Feb 2024 22:07:47
I think he's one of the best shot stoppers in Britain, tbh I think his distribution isn't that great, that's why we wouldn't get £20 million and that's a big reason he isn't with a top 5 club. Think about it he obviously has some sort of flaw or he wouldn't e with us.
21.) 13 Feb 2024 22:09:32
You not got a wee website that tells you what teams bid for players storm? You can’t help yourself having a wee dig at other posters.
22.) 13 Feb 2024 22:12:45
It’s tough to compare keepers in the EPL to Butland my star, Pope always looks good when he plays (I know that he’s injured just now) . Pickford like him or not has 58 caps for England and has played in the Euros final and will be Englands number 1.
He’s a cracking keeper, I hope he goes on to be a club legend and win a number of trebles.
I just can’t understand comments like £20m after getting him on a free because nobody was offering him first team football.
I hope I’m proved wrong in the long run.
23.) 13 Feb 2024 22:14:03
For me nick pope and ramsdale are better than jack.
I’d put him 3rd.
24.) 13 Feb 2024 23:44:08
My Star Dean Henderson is better.
25.) 14 Feb 2024 00:41:26
Correct storm, just as you've no proof they didn't.
26.) 14 Feb 2024 04:03:37
Oh baz the irony ?♂️ as you have a wee dig at me ?.
Boyblue I never made the comment tho, I just responded to what mark says.
I wasn’t having a dig at mark either.
All we do know is NoTts did make a bud.
Baz and boy keep the love flowing happy Valentine’s Day to both of you ?.
27.) 14 Feb 2024 04:40:43
Not for one minute trying to say gareth southgate doesn't know his job, but for me jack butland most definitely is a better goalkeeper than current england and everton keeper jordan pickford ?.
28.) 14 Feb 2024 06:22:21
Henderson that was dropped for nf and wanted Butland signed g4 that makes zero sense.
{Ed001's Note - Henderson never got dropped by Forest, he got injured while on loan there and was ruled out for most of the season. They then went and signed another keeper.}
29.) 14 Feb 2024 06:54:39
Cheers ed i though he was injured, stevie he can't get a game for Arsenal mate.
30.) 14 Feb 2024 07:43:50
Sorry ed i never thought he was injured i thought he was dropped.
{Ed001's Note - no mate. He has had a few injuries in his career to be honest, they cost him a chance to be number 1 at United and the Forest.}
31.) 14 Feb 2024 08:40:15
Think Butlands distribution is fine, as for flaws yet to see any, good solid keeper who is more than capable of dealing with probs when our defence has a brain fa#t. Whether a bid or not, it's up to the keeper where or when he decides to go, hypothetical or not release clause is irrelevant.
32.) 14 Feb 2024 11:15:01
Its easy for players in that league to disappear. Particularly if you are at Man Utd. as back up.
So I don't buy why hasn't anyone else bought him. That happens in football every day!
Example Ross Barkley. Was allowed to go to France, no one wanted him. Luton bring back! he's been brilliant and now being spoken about for the England squad. Why wasnt he bought before a French team? Because sh! t happens that's why.
There is no trigger in his contract. Forrest came in with £5m told they were way off with value and that they were wasting their time.
33.) 14 Feb 2024 11:26:45
You never made what comment? You made the comment "also no proof forest made a bid of 8 million" to which I replied, you have no proof they didn't. Simples.
03 Feb 2024 14:32:59
If we win our next 2 games the gap is closed.
03 Nov 2023 04:29:42
I think even if we have a bad game with this manager we should stick by him there is something different about this guy he needs time and patience.
1.) 03 Nov 2023 05:21:04
Fred, it doesn't matter how good a manager you are mate, as every manager has bad games ?.
2.) 03 Nov 2023 07:15:03
I'm very impressed with PC, he has an assurance about him.
3.) 03 Nov 2023 07:27:55
I don’t think anyone will be turning against Clement anytime soon.
We can already see progress is being made with the same group of players who were abysmal under Beale.
4.) 03 Nov 2023 07:48:21
Hello MPH, I certainly hope not mate, he's the real deal, the first since WS and I have every faith he will deliver for us.
5.) 03 Nov 2023 07:49:55
I'd like to think a new manager deserves a lot more time and faith than one bad game.
6.) 03 Nov 2023 08:51:59
Who would take a job as a football manager? It used to be that they got time to build their team, now if the team gets beat once or plays bad the media turn on him and want him out. Clemente’s will do very well given time and a few quid.
Ten Hag is a different matter, he’s spent £441 million on players of his choosing and they play as individuals, last season they played well, this season, terrible. Poor manager will only get £15 million if he’s sacked.
7.) 03 Nov 2023 09:01:03
Strange post, I know our fans can be a bit demanding but as people say why would fans not give PC a chance if he has one bad game, let's be honest there are going to be some bumps in the road ahead. after PC has had a couple of windows is time to judge, I am sure we will see steady progress in coming months.
8.) 03 Nov 2023 09:20:02
It's mad at Man Utd, Carrick.
They were interviewing fans outside Old Trafford after the Newcastle defeat and nearly all them blamed the board for the failings on the pitch!
Not Ten Hag who has spent a fortune. Or the players.
9.) 03 Nov 2023 09:42:14
Utd have been overpaying for years. the amount they're paying players is ridiculous.
10.) 03 Nov 2023 10:42:59
Ed001 - I know you couldn't care less about Man Utd. But what's your thoughts? Are the fans being blinded by their hatred of the board?
They have spent a lot of money so it can't be the boards fault?
{Ed001's Note - it is the board's fault imo. They are the reason they have ridiculously overpaid for players and bought the wrong ones. They have not invested in the infrastructure at all, which has left the stadium a crumbling mess, the training ground out of date, the scouting set up apallingly bad and gives no support to the head coaches. They have bottled out of appointments, including Rangnick's role as technical director (or similar anyway) last summer, that would have helped massively. He told them that the players were a problem and this would happen if they did not clear them out but it would have meant writing off tens of millions (such as the £5m they refused to pay Harry Maguire for his loyalty bonus when he had a move agreed elsewhere). The club is like a kit car right now - looks a little like a Ferrari, but when you get close you realise it is actually just a Ford Fiesta under a body kit with a knackered engine.
It won't matter who the coach is, if you don't sort out the backroom issues, they will always struggle. I was working on a player profile for Jadon Sancho earlier, oddly enough, to be posted up tomorrow, and I mostly ended up writing about the lack of due diligence they did on the lad. He had been a problem at City, Pep wanted nothing to do with him, they let him go and there was little interest in him in England, which is why he went to Dortmund. There he continued to cause problems and his biggest skill appears to be excuse-making after turning up late to training again, yet they went and overpaid to sign him. That is not going to change just because a new head coach is brought in. The head coach does not negotiate for signings.}
11.) 03 Nov 2023 11:39:35
Brilliant post Ed. Very informative read.
{Ed001's Note - thank you Carrick.}
12.) 03 Nov 2023 12:02:33
Great assessment as always. Never looked at it like that, Ed001.
After Ferguson years you always assume everything is OK with the stadium, training ground etc.
So what you are basically saying is that they are miles away on and off the park?
Your insight is always appreciated. Even on Utd considering you love Liverpool.
{Ed001's Note - yes they are miles off. Quite sad really as it is purely down to Ferguson's greed that it has ended up like it. His fight over Rock of Gibraltar led him to partner up with the Glazers to get the horse racing duo out of United. That is why you never hear him criticise the Glazers, as he is still being paid by them.
As for it being about United, I love footie too, not just Liverpool. My best friend was a Man Utd fan, so I always keep an eye on them because of that.}
13.) 03 Nov 2023 14:00:33
The side Ferguson left Moyes was not a great Man utd team. I think the decline was evident that season and Moyes had no chance, he was on a hiding to nothing.
{Ed001's Note - very true, but he was a poor choice of successor too.}
14.) 03 Nov 2023 12:48:53
Never knew the finer details of the Rock of Gibraltar deal, Ed001.
{Ed001's Note - Fergie was gifted a share in the horse but when it became a hugely valuable winner and stud, he wanted that share to also come with a cut of the fortune it was making. They had only gifted it to him so he could sample the joys of being an owner, they said. So Fergie took them to court to try and force them to give them a cut. It got very nasty and Magnier and McManus, who had bought shares in United at Ferguson's instigation to be his allies in the boardroom, tried to oust him as manager. So Ferguson went and found someone else to be his ally - that was one of Malcolm Glazer's sons, who had already been on the hunt for a Premier League side to buy. I wrote an article a few years ago about the downfall of United so I had to research it.}
15.) 03 Nov 2023 14:17:07
The chosen one but because of fergusons status everyone bought into it.
Out of curiosity ed, where do you think it went wrong for Liverpool?
{Ed001's Note - David Moores was where it went wrong for Liverpool. He was only interested in taking money out - a lot like the Glazers. When Anfield needed work doing or a new stadium built, the money wasn't there (though it was a tiny amount compared to the money it would cost today) but he refused to loan the club even a small amount, or to even stop taking his obscene salary and benefits. He would travel with the players all over the world at the club's expense, first class of course, even after he sold up. He shafted Dubai, who were set to buy the club, in favour of Gillett and Hicks because they offered to pay him a little more money. Even though Dubai had shown him a long term plan for the club's future, while Gillett and Hicks had literally just thrown a bid together the night before! Even when the club was about to go bust under Gillett and Hicks, after he had sold it for £86m in his pocket, he still refused to go without his takings from it. That was one of the first things FSG did, they got that parasite out of the club for good.}
16.) 03 Nov 2023 14:32:53
Leeches, the downfall of many a great club. Cheers ed. Very.
17.) 03 Nov 2023 15:51:05
Brilliant stuff ED. I could read more of this. I don't like Ferguson now haha.
{Ed001's Note - to be fair, while he is greedy, it must be pointed out that he is also extremely generous as well. Odd combination, but it is true. He contributed a very decent amount of money to the Hillsborough fund and many other charities as well.}
18.) 03 nov 2023 16:59:55
i titally agree with the hirse aspect ed, i am a avid racing fan all my days and that was a very unsavoury tale indeed, the two you mention were very very good to fergie, he should have dropped the issue but his inbuilt need to win was brought ti the surface and that meant he was almost incapable of seeing how poorly and greedy he was acting, i know fergie has been generous in his time, but sometimes that comes with greed for more, just to enable you to look very generous, without affecting your own wealth, if you know what i mean, fergie was a master if that.
{Ed001's Note - I don't believe his support for the Hillsborough families was motivated by anything other than a desire to help. It has never been publicised how much he has done at his own request.}
19.) 03 Nov 2023 17:22:04
Much as I thoroughly dislike Ferguson, I will give him his. due, he is very good with charities and good causes, so agree with you the re. Ed.
{Ed001's Note - like everyone, he is not all bad or all good.}
07 Jul 2023 00:28:33
No big win just started with buttons 14 years ago.
11 Aug 2022 02:45:09
55 they players were mentioned based on quality.