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29 Oct 2014 00:49:10
I wonder how many of the fans who did not attend tonight will be screaming for a semi final ticket if we happen to draw celtic what happens to your boycott then kings gone Ashley's here to stay support the team
1.) 29 Oct 2014 06:43:32
I've no doubt you have a point and there will be quite a few looking for tickets. However, I think many don't realise there are also differences of opinion in the people you refer to as 'boycott' fans. There are fans who are boycotting for change and if they get the change that they're happy with they'll want to return. Then there Are the others who are not boycotting they are simply done as for them the landscape has changed forever and what they once followed is now never going to be something they agree with. These are not boycotting fans and they won't be back. I honestly think you'll find that it may be easier than you think to get tickets for a game against Celtic. Granted. Not turn up and pay on the day standard but a lot easier than you may think. Don't be under the illusion that there is this mass group of 'boycotters' taking the huff on the say so of some half at$3d supporters group. Most are just staying away as a personal thing and not anything to do with supporters groups, Dave King etc.
2.) 29 Oct 2014 08:51:04
BAYBEAR :If we draw Celtic in semi-final, tickets will be VERY hard to come by.Agree with you about last nights attendance, 14 thousand is a poor showing for us but its been that way for a while,I see no mass boycotts on the say so of certain supporters groups,merely a freezing midweek game where the attendance would be a couple of thousand more if it wasn't on BBC.
3.) Baybear do u actaully believe that celtic tickets would be hard to come by? Do you really believe that? Because to be honest mate that's nonsense. If dave kings takeover bid had went through and he had came out asking the fans to come back then every home game till the end of the season would be a sell out. And you say a lot of fans simply won't come back at all??? What are you basing that on? I haven't spoken to ONE fan who has said that to me
4.) I have had my bellyful of boycotts. I was brought up a Rangers Football team supporter. I will now return as a man to support Rangers Football team. I am going back to get a season ticket. Mock and shout at me if you so wish but I have Royal Blue Blood in my veins and it will never drain away as long as I have breath in my body.
5.) 29 Oct 2014 10:22:56
Rossw01:I agree it would sell out twice over easy,but it wouldn't be for purely football reasons.It never has been for the football for most to be honest,but all that hatred and bile and whatever(the less savoury aspects) connected to the fixture will be displayed with a vengeance.
6.) 29 Oct 2014 18:10:29
@3 In defence of Baybear, he said tickets for any Celtic semi final would be quite EASY to get.
7.) 29 Oct 2014 19:26:14
GKK- I agree with most of your points. The poor turnout is not unusual for a Baltic midweek game in October and I don't think it has much to do with any boycott chat. I also agree with your point about the unsavoury aspects of a game against Celtic coming out with a vengeance. I do think that tickets will be marginally easier to come by than they once were although I suppose it's a moot point anyway.
Ross- I assume that was a typo and you meant 'wouldn't' not 'would'? If not then I agree.
Assuming the BAYBEAR in capitals is just a wee bit of persistent defiance. What about simply BAY? or are you folk determined that I remain a bear of some description ;0)
8.) 29 Oct 2014 21:16:00
OK mate BAY it shall be in future.I do feel your pain with this omnishambles our club has become,maybe kidding myself on but can't let go,surely you understand that?Saying that,I also respect your stance entirely.Cheers for feedback.
9.) 29 Oct 2014 23:55:37
Yeah GKK, I totally understand that. Each to their own. I will agree, disagree and just give an opinion. What I don't do is tell people not to go to games as it's feck all to do with me. I'm not part of any organised boycott I'm just going with my gut as are the thousands who still go to games. There's also the practical side that people sometimes forget such as justifying the money, time off work, family commitments or travel like sotonbear- play up Pompey ;0)
At the end of the day, football is no longer the working man's game that it once was. It costs a bl00dy fortune and for the average bloke with a home and a family it's becoming increasingly difficult to justify the cash outlay, especially when 9/10 the product on the park is dire. It's supposed to be a form of entertainment and at times it's like repeatedly buying overpriced cinema tickets for the same film that was rubbish the first time you watched it. Let's face it, loyal, part time or even just buying merchandise and paying for Sky; all football fans are helping the super rich get richer and there is barley a club out there who really cares about supporters. I've been enjoying watching local youth games recently with mates and a few beers after. It's simple football for the sake of enjoyment of the game, plus it's generally attack minded with boys looking to get that glory goal. Great stuff, just football for football's sake. No spivs, overpaid players that don't care, boycott chat or bigoted nonsense. Good luck to you though, for what it's worth I reckon Ashley is probably a safer option than King I'm just done with them aw.
25 Oct 2014 16:22:11
Just a thought mike Ashley's long term plan has got to be complete control of the club and I for one don't believe he would spend money on it for it not to be a success, fans groups are up in arms about him having stadium naming rights, merchandising deals if as I now believe his ultimate goal is to own rangers then he would have the naming rights etc, anyway at least he is putting his money into getting control albeit
Not directly which seems to me an attempt to starve the deadbeats in control now out the door, certain fans groups/media like to demonise Ashley but I say let have a chance and if he gets us on an even keel spends a few quid gets us back to talking about the team as opposed to the rats who have all but destroyed this this once great club of ours and if he makes a ton of money from merchandising great that to me will mean the support must be buying it which means they must be happy with the way the club was being run then we can all finally try and put the worst period of our long and proud history behind us, as I said at the start of this post it's just a thought a brilliant business man a the helm what's wrong with that
1.) Why is he a brilliant buisness man?money wise yes. the guy didn't give king the courtesy of a fone call, he hasen't as much opened dialoge with fans?he didn't open his mouth when he took nameing rites for a £1. even if he pumps £30 million into rangers, he is still a snake. brilliant buisnessman?not to our club.
2.) 25 Oct 2014 17:40:00
Laudrup22 I see where you are coming from,but maybe he never returned Kings calls because he just doesn't rate the man. Ashley never got where he is by making courtesy calls,I would have liked them both to work something out,but not to be. If Ashley would be more forthcoming as to his intentions long term,who knows what his plans are?
3.) If ashley was more fourth coming. it would put him in a bit of a better light with fans. but he is missing the point, we keep the club going as a viable buisness. now to unite fans, he has done nothing to apeese us in any form. the actual customers are being treated as fools with this man. and the easdales ahhhh. don't get me started. not even a consultation with fan groups. we are mugs to them, and going by the past and present, we will still be treated as mugs unless we hit them hard in the pocket. not ideal, no other option.
4.) 25 Oct 2014 19:01:19
Laudrup22 In all honesty mate,I wouldn't be surprised if Ashley gets shot a that pair of scavengers first chance he gets.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he is entirely clean of character,but I think he may draw the line at working with crooks.
5.) No what your sayn ggk. but end of the day, just swapin 1 bam pot for 1 way a big wallet.
6.) Reading some the posts they are a lot of deluded bears out there when will they realiase nothing is for nothing that's why ashley is where he is at least so far he has not claimed to be a rangers man he is only interested in rangers as buisness not a financial inferno at least u know what he is about from the only reason was involved with green was to make money that's the nature of him what bears need realise that's what he is there for money and onley money
7.) Wull61. there is no doubt ashley will give a little and take alot. to make money u have to spend money. i can't second guess m. k, but a stab in the dark says, he would need to spend money on team to win spl, which would be a catalist to bring fans back through the gates and buy shirts. would u agree?
8.) Laudrup22 iMessage with you on this mate Ashley is treating us like any of his money makers he says now but just takes takes takes, any money he put into rangers will be loans just like new united, if he gets control at Broxburn he will never invest, nor. Will he ever be removed, why would he ever move on a permenant cash cow
9.) Surely wood laudrup the one thing he would bring stability and hunt some deadwood even although we was involved with green i think he is only option left
10.) Ashley will not invest in the club, he will "loan" the club money to amke them debt free, then he will ensure the club makes a profit for him every year same as Newcastle are now doing. Once that happens then he just sits and takes his money every year safe in the knowledge that he will get back all of initial input and when he sells the club to the next set of businessmen it will all be pure profit. This is what he has done with Newcastle, they owe him £200million, they are making £7-£10million a year profit, and he is taking a hefty chunk of that as the owner, and when he sells the club he gets back his "loan" so the club are effectively paying him 7-10million a year to eb the owner. very clever man. The same will be done with Rangers, the cost sutting will hit really hard initially until the club is ona n even keel, then he will loan a few more quid for players and when the club start to win matches, the fans come back so he has full stadium, merchandise. Oh and McCoist is gone, certainty, 800k a year, not a chance.
Wull61 your right support the team through thick and thin that's what true supporters do boycott= turning your back on the club
McCall your at the wind up
Does anybody out there really believe that mike Ashley if he gains total control of the club would not make a success of it it wouldn't be in his best interest not to succeed a strong rangers team back winning trophy s =full stadium, merchandise sales, European football, look at the bigger picture, king to little always to late Kennedy ? Ashley has made his move to an inevitable outcome what is the alternative do we all just turn our backs on the club i don't think so as the song says we will follow on
In total agreement