27 Sep 2023 14:23:39
This ain’t my post lads but I thought this is a very good point by someone I seen on twitter al attach it

oig
Porteous
Ferguson
Nisbet
Shankland

Total cost approx £7.5M

Or

Yilmaz
Balogun
Cifuentes
Lammers
Dessers

Total cost approx £12.5M
And about double the wages

Not saying that’s the answer to everything, but the snobbery on players from our own league catches up with us.

What yous think?


1.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 14:34:03
I'm choosing Yilmaz over doig every day of the week and every following week stevie.


2.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 14:36:26
Hindsight is great but I would have taken all of the Scottish players apart from Porteous. Would’ve loved us to have went for Doig. People’s reasons for not is always that Scottish teams will play hardball with us but when you look at the amount of time it took for us to get deals done on some players like Dessers then other teams are as well.


3.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 14:58:41
Good post mate, hindsight a great thing but I’d take them.


4.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 14:59:53
No point on continually going on about what could have been. It didn't happen, nothing we can do about it now. Moaning won't sort the issue. Move on.


5.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:05:41
Shankland has to be be a Ger at some point soon
I'd also try get Armstrong from Killie but I know a lot of others wouldn't agree.

Only issue we have now is that most players would not thrive under Beale i do not think.


6.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:10:27
The Scottish clubs wouldn’t have sold them to us and the potential fees would be exorbitant as compared to English clubs.


7.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:18:49
If the players are good enough they should be signed regardless where they come from.
A lot of they names mentioned would have done a really good job for us.
The comments on hear saying there not good enough just look silly because a lot these players are performing for good clubs.


8.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:25:29
Porteous is one we should have went after. He must be worth at least £5m now.

The fact of the matter is though, our fans didn’t like him, and didn’t want him at the club.


9.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:35:06
Connor Barron would be a good signing imo.


10.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:37:20
Spot on Craigs8688 ???????????.


11.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:38:30
Kind of pointless because the prices you quote would not be the prices sold for if rangers were interested.


12.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:41:35
So we send young players like Lowry on loan and he puts Hearts into the League Cup semis! What is it with not giving our youngsters a chance? McCoist could/ should have done it back in 2012 but didn't. Instead he signed a bunch of has-beens. Will we never learn? Beale's signings have been crap, he doesn't have a clue. End of rant!


13.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:44:51
Ferguson was a big missed opportunity. The rest should only have been back up players if we'd ever signed them.


14.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:48:46
Stevie not a chance do we get they 5 players for 7.5m mate, i know it not your post but that hasn't got a chance of happening.


15.) 27 Sep 2023
27 sep 2023 15:52:32
when fans don't like him and he doesn't like us then that's more than enough reason why he shouldn't ever have been considered,

and this " clubs playing handball with us", they play hardball with everyone because that's they're job,


16.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 15:58:13
Could we afford the fees that would have been required?

Have they gone on to play for a bigger/ better club with the same pressure/ expectation to win every game?

Do they thrive playing against a team with 10 players behind the ball?

For me we missed an opportunity with Ferguson but not sure he would have been given the game time with us to allow his development. Most people on here said he was not good enough.


17.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:14:05
Timing is important too because at the time when Ferguson was linked, we were fine in midfield with Kamara, Aribo, Jack, Davis and Lundstram who were performing better as well, the consensus was then that where would he play and the club and a lot our support thought he was not an improvement on what we had.


18.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:19:12
“ So we send young players like Lowry on loan and he puts Hearts into the League Cup semis! What is it with not giving our youngsters a chance? McCoist could/ should have done it back in 2012 but didn't. Instead he signed a bunch of has-beens. Will we never learn? Beale's signings have been crap, he doesn't have a clue. End of rant! ”

You cannot compare Beale to McCoist. MccCoist put absolutely no effort into being the Rangers manager. He is guilty of not trying, and just treating the job as a cash grab. The man is a total disgrace.

When we were in Division 3 Charles Green and the rest of them needed a front man to go and tell the fans to buy STs. McCoist was that man, bought and paid for with £2m of shares, and a ridiculous wage that even McCoist was embarrassed by when it became public knowledge.

Should McCoist have tried to build a young and exciting team to work up the leagues with? Absolutely. As soon as it became clear he wasn’t going to do that it knocked the wind out of every fan attending those games. It took years to get rid of him. I will never forgive that man. It’s his fault we were in the lower league a year longer than we should have been. He couldn’t even outspend everybody to get promoted out of the Scottish Championship he was such an incompetent coach.


19.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:24:52
7.5mill, are you not forgetting the mark up for selling to rangers, that's even if these clubs would sell to us in the first place.


20.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:39:11
We should always try and bring the best players from our league to us.
Armstrong at kille would interest me as would the Aussie CH from Hearts.


21.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:44:55
A lot of those players wouldn’t have got a place in our side when they first came through.
Different story once they have gained more experience with their clubs before getting moves abroad etc.
I still think some aren’t good enough.


22.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 16:46:52
Verdant what have you seen of Porteous to suggest his value has increased 20X since he signed for Watford.


23.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:21:30
Those 5 players would have cost a hell of a lot more than that.


24.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:22:02
There's an old saying in football, 'if you are good enough then you are old enough'. McCoist was 20 when he joined Rangers and look at his record for the club. Denis Law was 16 when he made his professional debut for Huddersfield Town. Gazza was 18 when he first joined Newcastle United. What is the point of having a youth system when you never, ever give the kids a chance. I'd much rather see two or three of our youngsters given a chance than sign Dessers, Lessers, Samia or whoever. Will we never learn? McCoist was given an impossible task when he became manager. Sure, he was paid a lot of money. How much is Beale being paid?


25.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:24:46
I would have taken them all bar nesbitt boy is injury prone. We should have bought Ferguson at the time it was a no brainer but some of the snobbery on here didn’t want him. Our midfield wasn’t on at the time as you always want better players in every position if you can get them.


26.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:31:30
Good post with regards the Scottish players,
We’ll have to sign some soon or produce our own in order to get the correct numbers into our European Squads,
Ferguson and Shankland would be in contention for the starting 11 and I really don’t understand the logic in not signing them, Porteous and Nisbet good shouts also.


27.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:34:49
Verdant. You spend half your post reposting my post and the other half blaming Ally McCoist for Rangers' demise then agree that he didn't give youth a chance. ?


28.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 17:52:08
Doig better than yilmaz imo, yilmaz has done nothing yi deserve any praise at all. If he was a young Scots player he would be back in the B team.


29.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 18:09:30
“Verdant what have you seen of Porteous to suggest his value has increased 20X since he signed for Watford”

Had Porteous been on a long contract with Hibs they would have wanted £1m-£2m. When he was available for free on a pre-contract that was a bargain. Has his value gone up since joining Watford? Absolutely. He is now a full internationalist putting in performances for club and country. He’s a great age for a CB, no real history of injuries, plenty of resale value there.

Watford would want at least £5m for him now.


30.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 18:13:28
“ Verdant. You spend half your post reposting my post and the other half blaming Ally McCoist for Rangers' demise then agree that he didn't give youth a chance. ? ”

I can’t help it. McCoist out me through 3 years of torture. Let me vent….


31.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 18:14:31
To me yilmaz done absolutely nothing so far for people to say he's a better option than doig would have been. he's been really poor and constantly injured into the bargain.


32.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 18:15:37
Verdant is a strange one.
Backs Beale to the hilt.
But is quite prepared to slate club legends?.


33.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 19:03:21
Doig far better than yilmaz. Who si far has shown very little.


34.) 27 Sep 2023
27 Sep 2023 19:47:46
Just because McCoist was out of his depth as the manager - in a horrific situation - doesn't mean he was in it just for a 'cash grab'. He'd have been getting advice from plenty of more experienced people connected to the club including Walter, but in the end it didn't work out. To slate a legend like that is ridiculous in my opinion.


35.) 27 Sep 2023
27 sep 2023 20:04:57
mph. and told us coisty was that man who will never be welcome at ibrox again, naaaaah.