Rangers Debates 4

23 Nov 2025 11:00:23
Captain Tav with the assist the assist for the winner 👀.

23 Nov 2025 19:12:31
Tav that everyone likes to skate has been Rangers best outfield player this season. There isn't even a close 2nd.

23 Nov 2025 20:28:17
Pity his main duty is a defender and he's been rank rotten at that at times.
His attempt at tracking back in the second half was laughable
Ended up about 5 yards behind the Livi player after only about 10 yards.

23 Nov 2025 22:20:23
MPH you like stats. Maybe wonder why he couldn't track back, he's now 34, he's played 1650 minutes this season. He played a part in both goals. Yes his legs have gone, there is still no player at the club who can replicate what he still brings to the team. Sterling is still not fit enough to start and will be very unlikely to play 1650 mins in the whole season.

Aarrons sorry just not good enough. Have needs replaced, of tgat I have no doubt but until we can sign a replacement then he is what we have and the constant berating he gets on here is what is laughable. Best fans in the world, more aye right than aye ready.

23 Nov 2025 22:31:06
He does have a lack of concentration at time mate and also his fitness is obviously getting less than before.

I don't deny that.

He's still been our best player.

24 Nov 2025 08:31:53
Agree Stevie.

24 Nov 2025 16:01:04
The tav hate needs to stop its not his fault we are where we are.

22 Nov 2025 19:37:23
Gassama is all about himself one selfish player doesn't create just wants to do same thing all the time his body language is like s ten year old at times.

22 Nov 2025 21:37:21
His attitude is stinking at times.

23 Nov 2025 02:12:32
Horrible horrible imposter.

23 Nov 2025 02:13:11
Wasn't that when he was banging them in at the start of the season.

23 Nov 2025 08:33:00
Not an adequate replacement as of yet compared to who we let go, same applies to others who have come in.

23 Nov 2025 09:26:05
Agree franco.

23 Nov 2025 10:27:03
Gassama is only 22 year old, and the best wingers on the planet don't perform constantly.

23 Nov 2025 14:57:51
The only reason he doesn't get much flack Franco is because of his goals.

23 Nov 2025 14:58:16
Always excuses.

23 Nov 2025 15:52:22
That is a simple fact, even Davie Cooper didn't perform constantly well, far from it, but a magician we on it, Gassama is a money maker for Rangers.

23 Nov 2025 16:05:54
How many players were supposed to be money makers for us?

23 Nov 2025 16:47:00
Boomerang, Igamane, Jefte, now, Diomande, Raskin, Gassama.

23 Nov 2025 16:49:56
Anyway boomerang, what are you thinking about the situation at your own club?

23 Nov 2025 17:07:46
In 55 domestic league games for us and Sheff. Wed Gasama has 2 assists although that's in the league.

24 Nov 2025 16:03:09
Why are Rangers fans? trying to force bad opinions of players on to others.

And its funny they are only targeting guys like Gassama and tav who have actually performed ok in spells this season yet others not performing seem to avoid their criticism.

24 Nov 2025 17:34:48
That's not good enough ows but it's ok as they are inconsistent 🙄.

24 Nov 2025 17:35:27
Forever every player is getting it at the moment or do you just read ones that mention Gassama or Tav.

22 Nov 2025 11:14:29
Finances looking in better shape this year guys. I know it's a loss but things heading in the right direction.

22 Nov 2025 11:38:26
It's only because the other half of the city are a wee tad busy to put their spin on it.

22 Nov 2025 13:36:19
Not so sur Superally, next year's figures could be woeful due to more payoffs, our spending on players, particularly Chermiti and our huge drop off in Europe.

We are still in a bit of a mess, doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon.

22 Nov 2025 13:38:18
Can't imagine they'll be great this time next season. Ticket sales for Europa, no Europa after group stages and merch sales will be massively down.

22 Nov 2025 15:32:57
We have all the player sales from the summer to come on next year's financial. That should help with that. Cash in the bank looks much better.

22 Nov 2025 16:00:00
Cullin72 i doubt we've paid the whole 8million up front.

22 Nov 2025 17:07:51
Can't se us getting anything back for the guy, as things look now, only saving grace is it will never get to the £10m for add ons- unless he has a Lazarus style comeback.

24 Nov 2025 16:05:15
I also said before why is nobody concerned about our spending now that it's gone pete tong on players everyone suddenly panics.

Seeing a potential problem early does not make you negative it makes you prepared.

21 Nov 2025 18:29:59
Here's a question to one and all fellow bears 🤔With the transfer fees in this day and age, how much do you reckon it would be to buy richard gough, going on how good a centre half he was 🤔.

21 Nov 2025 19:24:44
Wattie, silly question really mate, it e we old depend on how long he had to run at the club he was being bought from, like trying to buy him from Barcelona or hearts?, I will take a guess, if we tried to buy him out of his last 12 month at say Leeds he would cost maybe 8 or 10 million,

21 Nov 2025 19:56:46
It would depend ( as above )

21 Nov 2025 20:37:07
Gough on a long contract would cost around 50/60m sws, but saying that Madrid only paid around 55m for Huijsen and i know what one I'd rather have if it was a choice.

21 Nov 2025 20:47:24
For me the problem is his age. I reckon £10 might do it.

21 Nov 2025 22:41:41
John that made me chuckle. So dry.

Coops - Hold him up against Van Dyk for example. Both in their prime. Gough blows him out the water.

What's VD birth? 40m or so?

Loved Gough as a player and person. Epitome of a Rangers Captain.

21 Nov 2025 23:26:25
Van Dijk is a step up from Gough, loved Gough but that's going a bit far me.

22 Nov 2025 07:21:15
Depends if we were buying or selling him 😂.

22 Nov 2025 09:44:09
Lol well played John 👏.

22 Nov 2025 10:18:16
Yeah I'd say vvd better than Gough.

Gough from Rangers in say 92/93 would cost &50m today.

22 Nov 2025 10:50:49
VVD better than gough. Doesn't take away how good gough was.

22 Nov 2025 11:23:01
Star - that's me all over the back, taking things too far 😅

I did manage the impossible though - got star and storm to agree!

Sorry both 😁.

22 Nov 2025 11:49:09
Athole you're some man 😁 obviously Gough was a top cb or he wouldn't be selling for £50m+.

22 Nov 2025 13:28:12
Nice one John 👍 vvd level above Gough both in defending and especially passing.

24 Nov 2025 16:07:40
I was a big gough fan but vvd is a better player. gough just suited Scottish football and was a great captain for our club but outside that he was an ok defender nothing more.

21 Nov 2025 16:21:49
Online reports state we made a 15million pound loss last year.

21 Nov 2025 16:38:19
Davie you can read it on website or wartch the interview.

21 Nov 2025 05:10:48
I'll kick this off first by stating i've always supported my country Scotland all through my life and i'm immensely proud to be scottish. I always want our Scotland national team to beat anyone and do well in every game they play. 👍

To get to my point i do believe the vast majority of us and Rangers supporters in general all support Scotland and want them to do well but i also get vibes that a minority of Rangers supporters don't care for Scotland and whether they do well or not and of course their entitled to their opinions but personally, i can't get my head around it. 🤔

I don't like the SFA one iota or a lot of the nuggets running the spfl etc but it doesn't and imo shouldn't stop anyone that's Scottish supporting their country. 🤔

For the Scotland supporters who wrongly boo Rangers players or any other player for that matter, playing for our national team shouldn't put anyone off supporting the team and should rise above those sort of people!

21 Nov 2025 08:12:33
whether people support as enthusiastically as you doesn't mean they don't hope they do well.

21 Nov 2025 09:36:12
Always have always will support Scotland. Soon as the boys pull the jersey on their playing for their country not their club. The boo brigade aka Celtic and aberdeen fans booing should be ousted by other supporters close by. Every1 is allowed their opinion but if your going to a national game and booing what's the point in going.

21 Nov 2025 09:53:52
Walter what about our lot that booed jimmy Johnstone dalglis mcgrain hay
Sadly all fan groups do it.

21 Nov 2025 12:52:59
Mainly halfwits that can't discern an international player playing for his country from his club team.

21 Nov 2025 13:53:09
Possibly the fact that back in the day you had 3, 4, 5 Rangers players in the Scottish team, now maybe? 1, and a sub if your lucky.

21 Nov 2025 18:09:20
Good post coops and fork.

Bar that's not Scotlands fault we don't have many good enough players to get into squad.


I don't know how true it is but apparently the most represented club fans that go to games is Rangers fans reed it the other day.

21 Nov 2025 19:02:17
Bar72, reading various posts about plenty of Rangers players playing for Scotland in the past made me think. I've posted this elsewhere, but as a wee exercise I took matches v England as a guide in the 20 years since my first Wembley in 1967 up until 1986. In that time there were 8 years when no Rangers player was selected, 5 years when one was selected (usually Greig or Forsyth), 4 years when 2 were picked and just 3 years (1968, 69 and 70) where 3 were selected.

It was never higher than that. In 17 of those games the mhankies had more players chosen than us. It's not a comprehensive study by any means, but this cameo seems to suggest a different outlook. Food for thought.

22 Nov 2025 13:38:01
Exactly fork, people will have you beleive it happens all the time and that's just nonsense.
Storm I put a post up last year on here in a debate about Scotland/rangers fans, a few people on here were saying not many Rangers fans go to Scotland games, I absolutely knew that wasn't true as it always seemed to be Rangers fans I'd get talking to at Scotland games, always seemed to me that there was plenty.

I didn't know that the most represented club was Rangers, but definitely knew there was so many more than people on here thought.

19 Nov 2025 15:49:12
New set piece coach announced Scott Fry. welcome Scott.

19 Nov 2025 23:21:30
the future is looking fantastic and i'm right behind them, Thelwell too.

It's a whole new era at Rangers, and i'm delighted by the quality of people brought in

#this is what change looks like.

20 Nov 2025 07:51:22
more excited now

i'm really happy at what's happening at Rangers, i think we have professionalism in almost all areas now

welcome son.

20 Nov 2025 16:47:26
Tom, TBH, I'm not convinced about Thelwell our Stewart.
Time will tell, i guess.
Rohl looks a good appointment.

20 Nov 2025 18:27:57
Boys love the enthusiasm, but let's not get carried away we've done and won nothing yet. Baby steps.

20 Nov 2025 19:23:08
Hi Mark, hope your well pal. we have played 11 league games, a whole new beginning 11 league games ago.

new board, new head coach, new upper management, new staff, new players, new coaching staff, and had to do most of that again very soon, nobody will ever get every decision correct, ever.

im more hopeful for the future than i have been in 30 yrs, i saw what murray was doing and worried constantly, i may not see it, but Rangers now are heading in the right direction, Thelwell was abused everywhere he looked, the man must wonder what this Rangers! were, nothing to what he read about.

i'm actually surprised he has shown such courage to stand up and carry on, nobody knows what his job entails, and it's not an easy job, we now have professionals at the helm, and a whole new future ahead, change is never ever easy.

20 Nov 2025 21:47:19
Mark, i totally get your opinion and i respect them always

Thelwell and Stewart have risen to the pinnacles of english football not by luck or thru pals

because they are at the top of their respective games, is why they were at major football clubs like Everton and Utd, not to mention other places outside football,,

Rangers embarked on a major upgrade and re-build based on a professional successful backdrop,, i'm more excited than I've been in many years, this isn't david murrays massive ego trip, this is real, i want the people behind me to witness greatness again and i think this is the right road, Thelwell is part of that journey right now

we have played only 11 league games,, and almost every post on here a few months ago agreed, it won't happen in weeks.

21 Nov 2025 18:10:04
Everton is not the pinnacle of English football and he done a terrible job also 👍.

19 Nov 2025 02:28:05
Did anyone here see pele play in their youth? Genuinely
Seen him
As we seen Ronaldo and Messi now?

Played in Brazil and America.

Goals record is very questionable as wasn't on camera and a lot of dodgy
Stuff back then esp in South America.

I've seen clips and I don't get it

I just don't get it woth him.

19 Nov 2025 07:52:26
Hard to compare eras. Football was completely different. Could Ronaldo and Messi have played like that on those pitches with tackety boots and old balls against cloggers? Just appreciate what they are in their own time.

19 Nov 2025 08:04:21
What's to get?
Won World Cup 3 times.
12 goals scored in Finals.

19 Nov 2025 08:15:24
Was 7 when he retired in 1974 at 33, didn't play in Munich that year, seen him in clips playing for the Cosmos up to 77 and even had the strip.

{Ed001's Note - my cousin played against and with him in the States.}

19 Nov 2025 09:01:18
What a story for your cousin to tell the Grandkids, sharing a pitch with Pele, Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - these days the kids probably wouldn't be impressed as he has no social media presence!}

19 Nov 2025 11:14:12
Different days, defenders and half backs were killing machines! Crap pitches, heavy boots and laced up football. remember him being targeted in '66, was shameful.
However from old clips, I might have Di Stefano in front of him, the man could literally do anything on the pitch, and did!

19 Nov 2025 11:46:39
Is this post for real?

19 Nov 2025 12:20:13
Saw him live and guy was different class. Defenders kicking him all over the pitch, heavy pitches, lace up bladder ball that weighed heavier as game went on. Watch best team ever 1970 Brazil and Pele was best player in that team.

19 Nov 2025 12:25:08
Very true, Ed.

19 Nov 2025 14:24:42
Cheers lads, shanks I was he that good then mate aye?
I've just never seen him doing anything much impressive like u do with maradona cruyff even as someone said do stefano has some pressure clips.

I don't know if pele was your Brazilian type player with flair and skill or just a total goal machine.

I know his number of pals have been questioned

Scottw why is it not for real?

I think it's a fair question.

I've not seen much of the guy so I can't say he's what others say he is for certain.

19 Nov 2025 16:03:21
Search Pele waiting for Carlos Alberto in the 1970 WC, he doesn't even look he just knows, also have a look at jarzinho and revilino.

19 Nov 2025 17:04:46
Stevie check out his goal in 1958 World Cup Final, think he was 16 then. Big difference for me was that defenders in his time were assasins rather kick player than ball.

19 Nov 2025 17:48:06
I'll need to have a wee
Look at
More
Of his clips.

Just the ones we normally
See I'm
Not overly impressed tbh.

Not compared
To Ronaldo Messi maradona Cruyff zidane.

20 Nov 2025 02:05:43
I saw him play at Hampden in 1966 on a Saturday night. It was a 1-1 draw and Billy Bremner brutally kicked the s*it out of Pele. The guy also suffered during the World Cup in England when he was mercilessly targeted (as was Portugal's Eusebio) by assassins posing as defenders.
At Hampden, aged 15, I was with the snappers behind the goals at the Rangers end as I got in with my camera and a pass card from the Bureau of Photographers which I had sent away for after seeing it in a newspaper ad!
As several others have said, it was a different game then, an often brutal affair played with heavy boots, heavy balls and heavy pitches.

Most 21st century ball players wouldn't have lasted a full game, and that's not a criticism, merely an opinion. But Pele did, and in his era (look at other World Cups) he was by a clear distance the most outstanding player.

20 Nov 2025 02:20:21
Thornton. Thanks very much for that reply mate apreciate it.

20 Nov 2025 09:52:59
Thornton was at that game as well and remember one of Brazils coaches going round the track before the game chucking oranges into the crowd.

20 Nov 2025 15:40:23
Thornton was at that game. Bremner gave him a hard time.

20 Nov 2025 20:17:51
Stevie when he died I watched some of his clips and it was like watching a mix of Messi Ronaldo and R9 an absolute phenomenon.

20 Nov 2025 20:52:32
Wishy cheers mate

It was a genuine honest question, some folk just can't help answer people cheekily on here mate.

18 Nov 2025 22:05:05
Absolutely buzzing

Can't believe we done it tonight
My poor kids and dogs didn't know what got into to me tonight was nearly through the tv 🤣💙💙🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

18 Nov 2025 22:25:35
Enjoy lads. As I said, I'm not a fan but even I was drawn in tonight.

Enjoy your night.

18 Nov 2025 22:35:21
Well done.
Dont watch them, was very surprised at result, I expect another humbling at the finals.
BUT, you never know 🤔🤔🤔.

19 Nov 2025 11:31:23
Bar I don't care if we get pumped every game as we are there and I am now thinking we are winning the whole thing 😂😂.