Rangers Debates 5

18 Nov 2025 21:58:48
Lance Corporal Jones here🫡 They don't like it up 'em, Captain Mannering, they don't like it up 'em.

Delighted I know nothing about football. 😁😁😁.

18 Nov 2025 20:48:05
We need Neil McCann back at the club pronto! He reads the game superbly and has a very astute tactical mind.

19 Nov 2025 00:51:21
Which is why he's had such a successful career as a coach and manager.

19 Nov 2025 12:33:59
SWMC - 🤣🤣

I just don't see this top coach people do when he talks.

I was far more impressed by Mo Ross speaking if that's what we're judging it on.

17 Nov 2025 15:41:20
Scott fry supposobly appointed set piece coach, ex Lincoln city set piece coach and supposobly Lincoln during that time were the best % of set piece goals in the efl. Only what I've read online and don't know nothing about him personally.

17 Nov 2025 16:01:44
Davie read it after Scott put up a post, impressive stats.

15 Nov 2025 21:49:14
Scotland are such a hard watch. Luckily its still in our own hands thanks to Belarus.
Good fight back but we started terribly and we missed so many chances. Che Adams should not be our starting striker, he is very poor. Cannon Doak is a very exciting talent.

15 Nov 2025 22:28:57
We live to fight another day.

15 Nov 2025 22:47:08
Who would you start on Tuesday jfm?

16 Nov 2025 23:02:52
start to win the game first, score goals, begin with shankland, replace him with more strong runners after we are in front, like Adams or Dykes, at least try to get in front for a change,

let the fb and Doak attack and supply ammo

get in front then to to stretch them and see the game out

however i suspect the manager will try to defend for 80 mins.

17 Nov 2025 00:19:06
The manager said that Shankland will get you goals, then he gives him a few minutes, Adams is not the answer neither is Dykes who's first touch is a clearance, Conway is better than both of them and Hirst.

Well Clarke can't play for a 0-0 next game so I think he won't sleep till then.

17 Nov 2025 08:48:56
Problem is the managers negativity. No chance we'll take the game to them. Glorious failure looms. Be bringing more defenders on later in the game if we are still chasing a result and any forward who's on will need to get back behind the ball.

17 Nov 2025 09:37:34
he knows adams will run all day, as will dykes,

neither has any quality and shankland is a far better footballer and goalscorer

he prefers the hard runners i think

i have a horrible feeling he will go into this trying to be still in it late on, instead of going for it.

17 Nov 2025 10:49:38
Exactly what will happen Tom.

17 Nov 2025 13:31:16
Bigger, wouldn't be surprised if Conway is the next Scotland manager main man, agree with your post about better than the rest, Adams is doing well in Italy.

17 Nov 2025 16:03:34
My star is Conway not a player at present, can't see how he will be next manager, unless I'm missing something.

17 Nov 2025 16:08:14
Lol, I think he meant "Managers Main Striker. " John👍.

17 Nov 2025 16:17:11
Very good player John, always stands out for Middlesbrough anytime i watch them. Stewart imo is better than any them but he's not near Clarke squad.

17 Nov 2025 16:20:57
Or Bristol City, I was wanting us signing him before Middlesbrough.

18 Nov 2025 20:49:02
Cool my star.

15 Nov 2025 18:10:56
Someone had mentioned igamane in relation to the Thelwell movie, and for me that's what it was, a total scripted production of mince, but my point is some say hamza had his head turned, which happens all the time.
but Martin had a clear problem with him from the very start, did the lad not have quite a long term deal, yes might have been unhappy but surely we could have stood our ground and told him he's going nowhere, and to buckle down even given him a wage rise sure he wasn't on big money compared to others.
after all he signed a contract and we pay the wages.


yes might have went in huff for a while but couldn't see that lasting long, the lad wants an international career,
My problem I feel was that he was seen as an asset to sell early on to boost the kitty by those in suits, the deal made was horrendous if you think about it, Lillie will be laughing at the end of the season if talk of psg and others rings true. Yes we have a sell on but the fee we got was poor. The lad will go far in the game.
Again this falls on Thelwells overall poor performance, he needs to go.

15 Nov 2025 19:05:11
What do u mean by scripted?

15 Nov 2025 19:24:42
Softball interview, tame questions, known in advance, no follow up or pressing. An opportunity to spin a line, that's my take on what he means by scripted.

15 Nov 2025 19:53:27
Like all the questions he knew where coming and therefore knew the correct answers, that wasn't off the cuff.

15 Nov 2025 20:02:26
Shota, Iga was contacted by Martin before preseason had begun and told he wasn't in his plans and he was free to find a new club.

Same situation with Dessers.

Then, we struggled to find replacements and both reported back.

Not sure if you recall that Dessers was pictured travelling for a medical well before he moved and the club also made up some 'fake news' about Hamza returning late due to visa issues.

It was a mess.

15 Nov 2025 20:44:16
EHL nice to know Russell couldn't see a good striker that was standing in front of him, then goes and shells out good money on a project striker, surely Thelwell should have pulled him to the side and say are you sure as this could tits up big style if you get this wrong, low and behold that's what exactly happened, we've now got a striker who couldn't hit a coo on the arse with stick.

16 Nov 2025 09:52:38
It just goes to show how much of a duffer Martin truly is, all for his so called philosophy of football, had we kept hamza for at least another season we would have been quids in and not in the mess we are in now up front.
RM was a right donkey, and that's giving donkeys a bad name.
Cheers EHL on clarification.

16 Nov 2025 11:48:55
Igamane wanted away for a while. Martin wasn't to blame for that.

16 Nov 2025 13:15:07
All the directors of this and that must require name badges so all of them know who and what they are, is there a director of directors? that might help.

16 Nov 2025 17:27:03
Martin told iga he wasn't in his plans?


Wow?

That man knows zero anoit football. That's a new low.

16 Nov 2025 21:11:13
What a calamitous decision to appoint Martin. If as I believe it was on Thelwell when Rohl was 1st choice, then that in itself is a stackable offence.

17 Nov 2025 07:15:56
I'm afraid that's not true Scot.

17 Nov 2025 07:15:58
if it wasn't for martins input i believe we would have had shanks and Iga together and mulligan too

he wanted Aarons. Rothwell and another instead and told iga and Dessers to go,

that's such an indictment of the man as a head coach.

17 Nov 2025 11:59:44
EHL - didn't you imply he wanted away since the time the fans banner went up about keeping Europe for Europeans?

17 Nov 2025 16:35:02
Am sure he did say at the time he wanted away MVG.

14 Nov 2025 18:30:41
As expected Willie Collum confirms that you can now kick your opponent in the head in Scottish football without being sent off. I expect this highly creative interpretation of the relevant law will hold exactly until the moment the next non Rangers player is kicked in the head. 🫡.

14 Nov 2025 22:35:42
Florida Bear. I have been told that wheels are in motion not just concerning this matter but a lot of issues and not just Regarding Rangers.

14 Nov 2025 23:34:16
Blows my mind florida, honestly mate.

15 Nov 2025 00:25:29
It dangerous play if you attempt to kick the ball if a keeper has got it under control, but it's ok if you kick the keeper on the head, mental.

15 Nov 2025 08:49:12
He hasn't said its okay, if it was okay it wouldn't get a booking or even a foul.

15 Nov 2025 09:09:28
Cool JFM, so kicking a keeper on the head isn't dangerous play.

15 Nov 2025 09:39:10
But it is dangerous play if you attempt to kick the ball if a keeper has got it under control, but it not dangerous play kicking him on the head, couldn't make that up.

15 Nov 2025 09:43:03
I never said that, I have clearly stated when it happened that imo it was a red. Just the phrase he said its okay is just misrepresentation of what was said.
Is this going to be another Chermiti discussion, with you where you tell me I've said something that I didn't.
Some things never change.

15 Nov 2025 09:58:46
Just for your clarification I've cut and pasted the regulations around dangerous play.

Key Details from the Rules
It results in an Indirect Free Kick (IFK) : If a player plays in a dangerous manner, the opposing team is awarded an indirect free kick from the spot of the infringement.
No contact is necessary: The offense is typically called when a player's action, while trying to play the ball, threatens injury to someone (including themselves or an opponent), causing a nearby opponent to stop playing the ball for fear of injury. Physical contact is not required for this specific foul.
Examples: Common examples include a high boot near an opponent's head, or a player dropping to head a ball at a height where opponents would normally be expected to use their feet.
Different from other fouls:
If contact does occur, the referee will usually consider if a more serious direct free kick (DFK) offense has been committed, such as a careless, reckless, or excessively forceful challenge.
Reckless play involves disregard for the danger to an opponent and results in a caution (yellow card).
Serious foul play or using excessive force (which endangers an opponent's safety) results in a sending-off (red card).
The key distinction is that "playing in a dangerous manner" is about the potential for injury and the impact this threat has on an opponent's ability to play the ball safely, even without actual contact.

15 Nov 2025 10:00:55
JFM I'm only pointing out it's a red card, should have maybe put it better, and somethings certainty do never change.

15 Nov 2025 10:26:52
My star it's not ok, however the rule is clear, it's a yellow, rule should be changed in my opinion.

15 Nov 2025 10:33:20
I agree John the rule is the problem. Under the current rule its a yellow. Hopefully something gets sorted.

15 Nov 2025 10:36:54
Mystar that is not just what you were doing, as per normal you tried to put words in my post that simply weren't there. You also said Collum said its ojay to kick someone in the head, of course he didn't. At the time I thought it was a red but that is not what the current rule is. Rules need changing.

15 Nov 2025 11:10:55
Explain how I'm trying to put words in your post JFM? It should be a red card, kicking a keeper on the head is 100% dangerous play in any situation.
I was being sarcastic about Collum 🙄.

15 Nov 2025 11:23:46
Your post said Cool JFM, so kicking a player in the head isn't dangerous play.
Where did I say it isn't dangerous play?
Neither did Collum say its ok.
He said it was a yellow card and that under the current rule is correct.

The rule stinks but it is what's in place.
Your opinion is that is a red. I've posted the actual regulations. They don't agree with your opinion.

15 Nov 2025 12:17:30
Well fine then JFM, the rules need changed then, because kicking a keeper on the head is 100% dangerous play, my only point was it should have been a red card, it's dangerous play attempting to kick the ball if a keeper has got the ball under control but it's not dangerous play kicking his head, why i said you couldn't make they rules up.

15 Nov 2025 13:09:22
Yes I've said that as well, the rules need sorting.
Any rule that allows a ref to decide in his own mind whether the force of a kick should be a yellow or a red is imo flawed.
It puts a ref in a situation where one half will be annoyed even angry with the decision.

15 Nov 2025 13:57:07
For those saying by the rules the force is negligible and therefore yellow, to me that is if its part of his natural stride and he's actively trying to stop forward momentum.

He did not do the above he pulled his leg back and made a forward movement towards the head of a goalkeeper lying on the ground. That is not negligible force and thus is a red card.

I've said it before on here and I'll say it again. Willie Collum was the worst referee scotland has produced in decades. he should NOT be in charge of things and when you consider that fact its no surprise that these mistakes happen and will continue to happen until he is removed. He should be replaced by Hugh Dallas, a proper referee.

15 Nov 2025 14:17:22
There is no mention of the phrase negligible force in the current rules. It is a choice between reckless play which is a yellow or serious foul play or using excessive force which is a red. Anything outside of that is just fan opinion.

15 Nov 2025 17:45:52
Jfm, u r 100% correct re your interpretation of the present rule.

15 Nov 2025 18:32:33
This is the rule for serious foul play however the incident can only be classed as Violent Conduct as there is no opportunity to play the ball. The wording for which states this:

Deliberately kicking or striking an opponent after the ball has been played.

The punishment for which is a RED card

Anyone who says otherwise, including Willie Gollum, is wrong.

15 Nov 2025 19:11:04
Goram no they r not. Spoke to an English epl player who's says it's applied correctly as does all his team and management.

15 Nov 2025 19:25:34
No point in trying to convince anyone who feels that strongly. But to dismiss everybody else as wrong is laughable.
I thought it was a red when I first saw it until I watched it over and over.


There are people on here who I respect and their opinion is different from you. One of them is a very successful football coach. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

15 Nov 2025 19:29:22
The rule re violent conduct is below.
Where your belief it was violent conduct falls flat is in the use of excessive force. My wife has hit me harder when dusting.

Violent conduct in football is the use of excessive force or brutality against an opponent or another person when not challenging for the ball, which includes striking, kicking, or head-butting.

15 Nov 2025 19:49:50
If a player is lying on the ground anywhere else on the pitch and you kick him in the head its a red card always has been and always will be

The rule doesn't change because its a goalkeeper in the box.

15 Nov 2025 20:00:41
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

15 Nov 2025 20:14:38
Gram I've cut and pasted the regulations in this thread, either you haven't read them or you j7st choose to ignore them. The rules need changed but as they stand it was the correct decision.

15 Nov 2025 20:59:36
You completely miss the point of what I'm saying which is that ANY force to the head is excessive and as I have said already those who disagree are just completely wrong.

To quote your post where it says if it "endagers an opponents safety" it is a red card.

As a challenge to those who disagree why don't you lie on the floor and ask yourself whilst lying there helpless with a 6ft4 centre half bearing down on you how hard you'd want him to swing his foot before you feel endangered.

There are some very good posters on here who have a different view for sure but the kmi panel (who's opinion has never been questioned up until now) confirm that it should have been a RED card and the fact that some people on here continue to disagree with that is laughable.

To reiterate my point from earlier. As long as Collum remains in charge of refereeing in Scotland NOTHING will change. He was completely useless as a ref and now he's turning them all into incompetent copies of himself.

Collum needs to go.

15 Nov 2025 22:28:10
At the end of the day any player having a pause before kicking out at any players head should be a red card, Trusty could have easily caught Butland eye and because he doesn't that makes no difference imo, that rule needs looked at, matters not now, I was more pissed off about the weekend costing us four points, but mistakes will made.

16 Nov 2025 06:53:36
Refs don't send a player off based on a could have.

16 Nov 2025 07:03:30
Gram seeing as you're quoting a tiny piece of the rile that I posted to try to make a point it is nonsense to say any force at all is excessive.
At the end of the day the ref made a decision in real time. If anybody had got it wrong it was the VAR officials who had time to look at it that the ref just doesn't get. Engagement to an opponent is at the discretion of the referee.

It is not as easy as just saying it endangered Butland. That was the officials call to make not yours.
This is my last post to you on the subject as to suggest someone lie on the floor is ludicrous and I will not waste any more of my time responding to someone who just can't understand the rules of the game.

16 Nov 2025 07:27:24
JFM, you're very correct and where this problem comes from, because kicking a keeper on the head is dangerous play with any force or lack of force, red card all day long.

16 Nov 2025 08:11:59
JFM likewise this is my last subject on the matter.

You have proved my point yet again though yet still don't seem to get it.

It is indeed ludicrous because noone would do it. You wouldn't, the referees wouldn't and the var wouldnt. Heck our head of refereeing wouldnt. The reason? Because any force to the head is excessive. With the mass in the leg of a player that size it doesn't need to move that fast or that hard to generate an exc.

16 Nov 2025 08:13:36
Excessive amount of force.

To suggest I don't understand the rules because I take a different view from you and am engaging on a debates page is hilarious.

It is as it says a debate after all.

Been a pleasure JFM and I enjoy your input on this site.

17 Nov 2025 16:38:25
Going by the rules it's a yellow. It's not hard to understand either. do I agree with the rules no. Do I think it should have been a red yes. But the rules state yellow.

13 Nov 2025 17:26:23
Guys, there has been a lot of to and fro's the past few days, Atlantic league, ranking positions, national teams, my da is bigger than your da. This has resulted in quite a bit of bickering.

Carlukes email attests that Asa is not who he says he is, as per Thomas Brakstads confirmation, right, where does this leave the site?

People have a way of coping differently circumstances dependent, Asa lost his mother, is this a falsehood also? I personally don't think it is, is Asa connected to Brann? We don't know. He does.

Asa's could clear this up with proof, do we push him for it? Or will he drift off to the aether.
Should he? I don't know, does he have to, the site is anonymous.

Lots is taken on trust on here that people are who they say they are, me I'm a gab of f that tells terrible jokes, it's a mask I have to wear to hide from my pain.

I like Asa's input and debates at times, he is a gd poster, but lately I agree he has been erratic. Are we aware of what if anything he is struggling with? No we're not.

Let's take a bit of time think things thru before response.

I hope this can be resolved one way ot the other, not just for Asa, but for anyone else on here who has to wear a mask to get thru the day.

13 Nov 2025 18:17:23
Think we need a bit of proof.
I don't know what to believe, but think the lads on here deserve the truth to be honest, it's a hard one, but needs sorting out as it's continually happening.
I seem to know more about Asa than I do about every single person on here combined, which is a wee bit weird but he deserves to be able to counter these accusations and Carluke needs to prove his.


Never boring on the banter eh.

13 Nov 2025 18:20:34
Nice post Fork

You are a caring man I sense that. I too like Asa's input on here but we can't blame mental health for every choice we make. I know that btr than most. I have tried to help Asa and give him books to read as I have seen this coming for a long time. The honest answer is nobody can help him Asa bar himself. If he has been telling the odd tale or two which I strongly suspect he has to own that and just come back on and be himself. I really do hope you get the help you need Asa. It is once again quite clear you are not quite yourself. Once you own that yourself the rest of it is a piece of piss my friend.

PS The book that will help your recovery is called The games people play by Eric Berne 🫡.

13 Nov 2025 18:51:25
If i was to pick someone on here to have my back it would be u Fork, u seem like a classy individual. As for the Asa debate, I couldn't care if any of it is true of false tbh. I do what he can't and just ignore things I don't like. Either way it seems like the guy could do with some help.

13 Nov 2025 19:07:08
Why thanks Supernovo, appreciated 😊👍.

13 Nov 2025 19:14:39
Fork, if you ever need to get something off your chest we'll always try to help you.

13 Nov 2025 19:35:00
Can just picture you fork sitting in your smoking jacket and cravat, glass of cognac in hand, typing away as your man servant relights another hold rolled Cuban cigar. That is class
Joking aside that was a nice wee post fae supernova, it has been getting a bit mental in here, life's tough enough without this wee escape turning madder than the minute.

13 Nov 2025 19:37:06
I'm fine Mark, but thank you. I carry what I do because I choose to, it makes me who I am.

13 Nov 2025 19:44:41
Well said fork mate. Seems to kick off more every international break too when there nothing Rangers to debate. I enjoy Asas posts generally regardless if he is who he says he is for whatever reason, however as u say I have also found him very erratic as u say, and unwilling to accept others having a different opinion and getting involved in petty arguments of late.

He did say he'd suffered loss which obviously has a effect so if this is affecting him or anyone for that matter, keep talking and get help. It's a good thing we are annonamous for these reasons.
PS. I am Danny Rohl.

13 Nov 2025 19:51:50
I've tried very hard Fork to be respectful in my posts to Asa. Is he who he says he is, maybe, maybe not. Does it matter, to some more than others. When the whole investing in Rangers stuff came up I asked a simple question in a search engine. I have never posted the information I got in response as I was wary of the fabled "pile on" that I would get if I did.
Its very difficult to always post respectfully to someone that you believe is not being truthful but I have tried. His assassination of football in this country over the last two days has been difficult not to respond to. Boasting about how Brann took Rangers apart. For someone who has posted so much about coefficient scores and UEFA rankings maybe he should have a look at where Brann are compared to Rangers.


As I alluded to he would be very offended if I were to tear into Norwegian football the way he has about Scotland.
He has said that apart from two clubs the teams are hammer throwers, are Hearts top of the league because they are hammer throwers?
For a man who talks so much about respect he has shown very little of it while discussing Scotland and its football over the last two days.
What type of response do you think I would get if I had used the username I am God.
He called himself after a Norse God.
I think Asa is harmless, but he is such a Walter Mitty character its difficult to respond to him without him flying off the handle.

13 Nov 2025 20:19:10
So the highly successful international businessman who meets up with the great and the good, though he spends a suspiciously large amount of time on here being offended by the slightest wee criticism of Norwegian football while dishing it out to anyone who disagrees with him isn't who he says he is?

Well, I'll be darned!

13 Nov 2025 20:33:06
JFM that is a very reasonable assessment my friend and one I have concluded to myself. From the permission from Andrew Cavanagh to be on here, hiring and firing at SK Brann, shares in Rangers and many others it's just simply not believable nor does it make any sense to any reasonable person.

That being said I believe on another post someone has emailed SK Brann and they have confirmed Asa is an internet troll. Sad really to make up this stuff. I do hope the man gets help 🫡.

13 Nov 2025 20:37:05
JFM I get Rangers come from all over the world but does seem strange to me to spend so much time and agrivation slating the league of the team u support in a different country that u really don't rate. Unless perhaps his ideas come from hoping having Old firm would help raise the profile of his leagues rather than helping us out?

13 Nov 2025 20:54:13
Agreed shota it does get testing at times, people see different things and react to how they think, we are all individual with our own wee foibles, that's what makes it diverse, without the diversity there's no site. Now excuse me while I send my man for another bottle😉🤣.

13 Nov 2025 20:56:50
Jfm I get it bud there has been a lot of back n forth recently and people can be tested, patience can be a virtue both sides of an argument don't possess unfortunately.

13 Nov 2025 21:23:23
Agree with you fork this thread has gone round the houses lately and it's doing no one any favours.

We don't know the full facts about Asa, and speculation helps nobody. If someone has genuine evidence of wrongdoing, the sensible route is to pass it to the Eds privately so it can be checked, rather than dragging it out in public. Equally, if Asa wants to explain himself, that's his choice as it's been his choice to tell everyone about his supposed life and stature etc
but let's not bully someone into a corner.

People on here bring different masks for different reasons. Most have felt and lived through loss, We should try to remember there are real people behind the usernames.

So let's pause the personal stuff, stop the bickering, and get back to proper debate about Rangers. If anyone's upset or getting personal Ed's please step in as you usually do before it gets over the top. If Asa wants to speak, give him the space to do so and anyone else for that matter.

Hope we can move forward with a bit more respect and keep the site a place for decent discussion.

But maybe if we keep to football we wouldn't be going round the houses every other week must admit the more it happens the less I can take serious
If you have a problem you want to share feel free but let's not keep going round the houses sharing, caring and then fallen out, rinse and repeat it feels pointless and losses it's meaning the more it happens almost like a false hood.

I would also recommend anyone who has deep personal grief or depression etc not to just use this site but to seek real professional help by qualified professionals. Who will be able to give proper counselling and and prescribe medication if it's needed.


Anyway let's everyone get back to the football if we can. 💙👍.

13 Nov 2025 21:58:36
What i would like to ask hopefully without offending anyone is how many of the posters on here who attend matches at Ibrox got to meet Asa when he was over for the old firm game? I will be very surprised if anybody says they did.

13 Nov 2025 22:41:20
My point was i wouldn't like that league, and think we should be looking for better.

13 Nov 2025 22:59:11
Totally agree stig and we'll said and put across, great post bud👍.

14 Nov 2025 00:44:18
Personally i couldn't care less what asa is or isn't.

long ago i said my small business took every waking minute to keep on top of, i didn't have time to eat never mind spend all day on a fans forum
serious illness put paid to those problems

but maybe asa has managed that trick

who knows, maybe minions relate posts to him and he dictates the response,

Anyway, hope he is back tomorrow, but i would suggest one thing, tho it may be strange to say this to such a successful businessman

nobody should simply close their mind to another man's disagreement in what you say

listen, and learn.

14 Nov 2025 01:53:06
Nor was there a response to Ibroxforme request to meet up in Norway for a glass of wine

maybe too busy with work, who knows.

14 Nov 2025 13:18:34
I for one was once accused off being Racist by ASA on the live chat which I received a full apology from him which I accepted, but found his accusations towards me uncalled for and very strange! His posts lately were also very strange and on this app gloating an hour after beating us in Brann was also very strange 👍✌️.

14 Nov 2025 14:32:19
Well, i do not believe in beating about the bush, and I am always upfront and direct. The poster known as Asa, in my humble opinion, is a pure fantasist!

Now, what we don't know is why he is like this?! Is he a troll? Is he at the wind up? Is he a fantasist living off grid from reality? Is he a very lonely individual, with issues, who gets comfort from creating a fantasy persona because he struggles with his real persona? Who knows!

I do not think he is a troll, or at the wind up, because he takes things so personally. Unfortunately, I believe the guy is suffering from delusions of grandeur, which could be brought on by some sort of past trauma etc. This might be his escape from his reality.

Anyway, on that basis, i will not be commenting further on the guy, as I do not want to cause additional distress etc.

14 Nov 2025 18:02:04
I couldn't careless who Asa is or anyone else on here. I read the posts for Rangers updates and have had plenty from Asa and others.

15 Nov 2025 00:09:14
Some brilliant posts there, guys. Anything I could add has already been said. Could we please put this to bed now guy's, please 🙏.

15 Nov 2025 09:51:03
100% self inflicted, but as others have said, its done now, imo he is getting more airtime than he deserves, due to his treatment of people on here.

17 Nov 2025 16:44:45
Correct ows. It's mental how people want to try and find out about Asa if it's true or it isn't who cares. No one on here knows Mach other apart from a couple that have met each other think John has met one or two.

FB you are seriously having a giraffe mate after what happened with you Jesus Christ you didn't own your mistake and it was never cleared up either IMO. This is one you should be staying well clear of.

17 Nov 2025 16:46:09
Forgot to say fork I wouldn't want you having my back because yer a snitch 😂😂.

18 Nov 2025 08:34:56
100% agree Storm👀👍🤣🤣.

13 Nov 2025 09:30:45
So we can now intentionally kick someone in the head and expect nothing more than a yellow card, as long as it is deemed to be soft enough.

That means it is subjective and whoever is officiating the match decides if enough force has been applied to merit a red or yellow card.

Hence why Trusty only received a yellow, you can bet if the boot were on the other foot (pun intended), then one of our players would be taking an early bath.

Rules cannot be subjective for that very reason, they should be black and white. Did they do such and such? If the answer if yes, then they must receive a yellow or red card.

In our case this was an INTENTIONAL KICK TO THE HEAD, which surely comes under dangerous play, intent etc etc?

If one of our players were to get sent off for the same thing, I would have no problems with the decision whatsoever, as it would be fully warranted.

13 Nov 2025 10:56:05
Roofe wiped out the Prague goalkeeper, fractured his jaw and Rangers appealed his 5 match ban for dangerous play.

13 Nov 2025 10:58:30
Correct Cletus, he stopped, then intentionally kicked Butland's head, force means nothing, shockingly bad call that could have repercussions.

13 Nov 2025 11:23:17
Cletus - agreed, intent was there and now they are sending out the wrong message to players that this behaviour is OK - any intent or forward motion to a players head (goalkeeper on ground) when the ball is nowhere near without being truly taken to task is therefore folly - the officials are now making a fool of themselves🤔.

13 Nov 2025 11:52:57
I hear you MPH, awful challenge BUT there was no intent on Roofe's part. You can clearly see that on the YouTube clip. His eyes were fixed on the ball and the pace of both himself and the keeper meant stopping was impossible.

Trusty however, had pulled out the challenge when he saw jack had control of the ball, a slight pause and then he went again with the kick to the head. He opted to go again, rather than stop, and that means intent on his part.

The force of the challenge shouldn't matter, what if he got his wee fly kick wrong and his studs caught him in the eye?
What if he went in with more force than he intended?

It is for reasons like this that this sort of challenge cannot be accepted - 'Sure it was only a wee tap, no harm done', won't always cut it.

ANY intentional kick to the head, however slight, should merit a straight red card. Full stop.

13 Nov 2025 12:03:39
Collum is basically saying it's ok for kicking a player on the head as long as it's not forceful.

13 Nov 2025 13:17:19
I don't disagree, Cletus.
But we can't rip up the rule book over every incident.
My point about Roofe is that he did wipe out the Prague keeper with a high boot and Rangers still felt the need to appeal it.
And it is very difficult to prove intent.

13 Nov 2025 14:34:59
Force does matter as it's in the rules whether we all agree or not I think it's time to move on. We got beat because we weren't good enough.

13 Nov 2025 16:15:29
So you can pause and then kick out at the keepers head with no force, so what happens when you catch the keepers eye with the no force kick, force has nothing to do with a red card, covering up is all i see.

13 Nov 2025 17:09:51
This challenge would have been reviewed against the Serious Foul Play law.

It couldn't be classed as Violent Conduct as the incident occurred in play whilst competing for the ball.

The rules as written state "A tackle or challenge that endangers the safety of an opponent or uses excessive force or brutality must be sanctioned as serious foul play. "

This is completely subjective and if we all applied this to 100 challenges there's be a huge disparity in the outcome.

To combat this the governing body and referees meet at the start of each year to agree how they will apply the subjective rules

In our league it was agreed, and communicated to clubs, that the threshold for endangering a player would be based on the position of the foot, i. e. tackle with studs showing you are putting a player in danger.

Thelos was a red card due to the fact his studs were showing and the force was excessive.

Trusty's was a yellow as the studs weren't showing and the force wasn't excessive.

For me, the issue is in the the way the laws are written - these don't help referees.

13 Nov 2025 17:26:50
Rangers appealed because the rules allowed it and it was accidental.

i know the head kick was minimal, but it was also intended and could have a dangerous outcome

they know they get away with it, i myself am moving on.

13 Nov 2025 19:50:29
The force argument should be irrelevant as it is definitely endangering an opponent. Therefore a RED. How can force be an issue when u don't even have to make contact if u take a swipe at someone or kick out at them?

13 Nov 2025 21:25:06
Kaiser, because force forms a huge part of the written rule.

Bizarrely, if it was deemed Violent Conduct, there wouldn't need to be any contact - which I think is what you are referring to.

The laws are a mess.

14 Nov 2025 07:05:27
Yes the rules are a mess EHL but the same rule that says about force also says endangering opponent which any kick to the head certainly is. I fact for me kicking out at someone's head is violent conduct so he should have been off on both counts.

12 Nov 2025 18:42:38
So wullie collum is backing walsh and dallas for not sending trusty off, says a yellow is sufficient as it was only a tap, so there we go, so no more to be said on the matter as wullie has the final say, either wullie is corrupt stupid or loyal to his pals is open to all interpretations, make you own mind up.

12 Nov 2025 19:22:28
By the the laws of the game they were correct.

12 Nov 2025 20:04:14
Willie Collum we know what you are 🫡.