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26 Sep 2025 13:52:19
Just seem Martins interview on Sky, spoke to Cavenagh after the game but only about what we can do better seemingly! He isn't being sacked yet again, how much more do these owners need to put us through before they see the light!
Martin is killing the club and has sucked everything out of the fans, can't believe we are stuck with him🤮.
26 Sep 2025 13:24:17
All this talk of Martin's contract and how much it would cost to terminate and at what stage - here's one thing to consider.
Estimated lost revenue from the last 2 home games - over £500,000.
26 Sep 2025 12:52:17
Can we terminate the loan deals in January for Moore, Aaron's and Djiga? Never a fan of Diomande, what a ridiculous tackle if he concentrated on making things happen rather than posturing and pointing, he might get a game in the English league one. A word of praise for Rothwell when he came on showed to me a level of urgency that everyone was lacking. he at least looked like he was wanting to be here.
26 Sep 2025 13:54:06
All 3 have been absolutely honkin. aarons probably the worst by a good bit. Moore supposed to be spurs wonder kid if he's worth 20mill then curtis must be worth 30mill. Moores 1st touch is awful, also seems to be exemptnfron defending last night.
26 Sep 2025 14:21:53
The left back can also go back as clearly not good enough.
26 Sep 2025 14:42:27
Diomande was poor yesterday but don't kid yourself he will play a lot higher level than league 1.
26 Sep 2025 14:52:01
Yately mehoma had a poor game last night. But been pretty good i think so far.
26 Sep 2025 14:54:38
Yately meghoma a good player and linked up well going forward with gassama, so far from what i've seen at 19 I would be happy if Rangers signed him along with another experienced left back.
He's not "clearly not good enough" after one performance when he was far from the worst player on the pitch.
26 Sep 2025 15:01:53
Thankfully, all three are loans.
26 Sep 2025 15:25:13
The left back is one of our best signings the other 3 can go.
26 Sep 2025 17:24:16
Dio is honking. Said it for ages.
26 Sep 2025 12:27:58
Been thinking about a new Manager (once Mr. Quorn gets removed).
Although I'd love Marco Rose, Schmitt or Muscat even Danny Rohl they are all another gamble so I think the only person the fans might unite behind is Gerrard. He wasn't my first choice last time but I certainly didn't want Martin so Gerrard right now in my opinion is the best option we have available.
He'd be more equipped this time, knows what it means to play for Rangers, would make the defence solid at least, plays some nice football, does well in Europe and had Celtic's number in old firms so I think he'd be the man that could turn this rubbish show around before it's too late.
26 Sep 2025 13:16:29
I wonder if Gerrard had the fire to come back as a manager anywhere. I only say thst because he's not been back since being sacked in Saudi.
26 Sep 2025 14:04:38
Polar bear. In every single walk of life, if you have a job remit, and you know someone who was able to do that job in similar circumstances before then that would be your first choice appointment.
Gerrard was and still is the obvious choice. Someone that has run and won this same race before.
26 Sep 2025 14:56:05
Zikos we don't have 3 years and a 70 player turnaround plus a pandemic for him to get it right.
He is not the answer.
26 Sep 2025 15:17:11
And remember according to some, it was Beale who ran the show and noone apparently wants him back either.
26 Sep 2025 15:35:58
Disagree asathor. he is the man. lessons learned and he would get it right. better the devil you know.
26 Sep 2025 19:56:50
Asa- if we go down that route and appoint a new manager, and SG in your opinion is not your choice, who would be on your shortlist?
26 Sep 2025 12:20:00
Wee question EHL,
Taking the contract issue into consideration, do you think it would be possible to get a first team coach and meantime give Martin the 18s to manage/ coach until the 6 months are up?
It may prove a problem getting someone for 6 months or so. Not sure if his contract stipulates first team coach?
Just a thought.
26 Sep 2025 12:23:27
Bunnet the easiest way would be to amicably and mutually terminate the contract.
26 Sep 2025 12:34:59
Russel Martin's job is first team coach, i would be very surprised if his contact doesn't state his job role.
26 Sep 2025 12:35:11
I doubt it Bunnet, the same way I doubt we could put him on gardening leave.
That said, I'm no contract expert - just guessing that there would be clauses that prevents it.
That is, of course, if the message I got about the contract is true of course.
26 Sep 2025 13:04:00
Put him on gardening leave, bring in a full time manager and pay Martin off when the time is right.
No more messing about, we need positive action, now.
26 Sep 2025 13:10:04
Martin is a coach, so bring in a manager, leave Martin as coach, then sack him after his 6 months are up.
26 Sep 2025 13:16:06
Asa my thoughts exactly. Surely RM health must be suffering here. I could see him going to the board and saying this isn't working is there anything we could do. This has to stop for everyone concerned.
26 Sep 2025 13:52:33
Thanks guys, a long shot but we need him gone. He is ripping the soul out of us.
Blue blue sea to empty blue seats of Ibrox.
26 Sep 2025 14:19:33
Surly it makes sense to speak to him and make him an offer that he gets like a years pay to go the now.
26 Sep 2025 15:21:07
The first thing on his contract would be first team coach. don't know anyone who would sign a contract that didn't stipulate position, role and responsibilities.
dont even need to put him on garden leave, you can dismiss and pay the costs. putting him on garden leave would effectively be termination of contract and being relieved of his duties. putting on garden leave so we can reduce our costs would be seen as terminating now and any court would say the same.
26 Sep 2025 21:26:58
Surely we should have clause in the contract that allows termination if certain performance levels are not met?
26 Sep 2025 12:10:46
I get zero pleasure knowing that this dud of a "manager/ coach" was going to be an abject failure from the second our new owners hired him. I'm sure many will remember what I posted?!
How did he get the gig? What did our board see in him that the majority of supporters didn't? His record is abysmal! He is the biggest fraud in British football! Imo, he's a deluded fantasist!
Surely there is nobody left on here backing this guy? Even the most ardent supporter must see him for what he is? When supporters like My Star want him gone so early it speaks volumes. Hope you are well My Star.
As much as this might sound sensationalised, Martin is ruining our club on the field. It is that dire!
No wins in the league! Sitting 2nd bottom after 5 games! Pumped out of CL! Lost in 1st game (at home) in EL! Dwindling attendances! Protests! public fallouts with players! What else can we expect to come? I dread to think.
As long as this egomaniac is at the helm, we are in a very perilous situation. It's not going to get better! If A. Cavenagh et al do not act now, it is going to get much worse.
And please spare me any excuses regarding decisions, I doubt that will wash.
Apologies for the exclamation mark overload. 🤣.
26 Sep 2025 12:27:33
Good to hear from you bud, missed u on live chat, hope alls well👍👍.
26 Sep 2025 12:28:09
You did that sunshine, men that appointed him can also do one, great having you back on mate.
26 Sep 2025 13:02:03
Sunshine,
Was it not the case that the recruitment company got it down to two candidates, and Thelwell then arrived and he wanted a third 'outstanding' candidate added to the list (this being Martin) and the board agreed to interview the three of them?
Martin did his 'snake oil salesman' routine, and the interview panel fell for it.
So ultimately Thelwell is to blame for bringing this fraud to the table?
26 Sep 2025 13:06:48
Good to see you posting ssfc. I hope things outside of our disaster of a club are good with you.
26 Sep 2025 13:13:12
You're absolutely right SS . Had a moment last night I thought right let's look for positives and maybe we can turn this around, I must have been have a senior moment. 😅
From the very start, the warning signs were there. His track record wasn't just poor, it was a clear indication that he wasn't equipped for the job at this level. Yet the board either ignored it, or worse, didn't even care which makes you wonder what their real plan for the club actually is and if EHL has heard correct about the contract it just gets more worrisome!
The evidence is right in front of us: no wins in the league, embarrassing results in Europe, supporters already drifting away, protests growing louder, and players publicly falling out with him.
That isn't bad luck, that's a pattern of failure. And once you lose the dressing room and the fans, there's no way back for him.
Calling him a fraud might sound harsh, but it's the truth. He talks a big game, but nothing on the pitch backs it up. Football is about results, not empty words, and right now the results are bloody awful.
The reality is If the board don't act soon, they'll be complicit in dragging the club further into crisis. And if they really had the club's best interests at heart, they'd see what every supporter can already see: this experiment has failed. End it now, before it gets even uglier.
26 Sep 2025 13:20:13
Sunshine even if all you say is correct why have we not acted like a big club and sacked him? Does anyone believe if this was Leeds he'd still be in a job?
So I wonder if Cavanagh is running the show and he's detached from things living in the USA and relying on Thelwell and Stewart who are advising him that any manager would struggle not only Martin. All 3 need removed.
26 Sep 2025 13:21:53
Sunshine, well summed up.
We're watching our season fall apart.
26 Sep 2025 13:45:02
Chermiti is never a striker, Danilo is never a striker and Miovski might bag 10 goals all season if we're lucky. Shocking tactics and poor team selection aside, we can't even create chances never mind taking them. We'll not finish in top two this season, regardless of whether Martin is bagged or not. Worst Rangers team I've ever seen.
26 Sep 2025 13:47:07
It's so frustrating sunshine. I've not used my ST since St Mirren game mate, nor will I until this guy is gone. He is ruining us on the park we are absolutely toothless up top.
We look like a rabbit caught in the headlights any time we get near the opposition box. What advantage is he trying to create with this high back line? whatever it is, it doesn't work. 3 or 4 times we were absolutely cut right open by 2-3 passes.
It's like watching a primary school team. I have no faith in these new owners at all, they obviously haven't got a clue what's going on, before someone comes at me with they're billionaires for a reason of course they have a clue.
I'm not talking about how much money they've made, I'm talking about how "our" club is being run (into the ground) - what are these people thinking? I don't understand. If true about Moore being guaranteed so many starts in each competition and 8 million for Chermiti, someone needs sacked for that alone.
26 Sep 2025 14:03:19
Good to see you back my friend. Martin OUT 🫡.
26 Sep 2025 14:24:31
It's good to hear from you SS as it was likewise last night in the group chat. The mind boggles that anyone within the club thinks that the results and performances are acceptable. I remember your post and I'm sure you would have quite happily came back on if it was the other way round and you had got it wrong. Unfortunately you were bang on mate.
26 Sep 2025 14:34:37
Good post mate and good to see you posting.