10 Jul 2025 14:15:21
I thought the club had moved to a policy of signing players to fit a playing style regardless of the manager? It looks to me as though all our signings are known to RM and I remain to be convinced Rothwell and Aaron's a side that signing mid table championship players will get us above celtic. Granted some signings have great potential but have little experience of having to win every week. Time will tell but I hoped we spread the net for signings further afield.
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10 Jul 2025 14:25:33
I have concerns also onewaltersmith, but hopefully be proved wrong.
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10 Jul 2025 14:35:10
So far, it's only those two players who have been signed at the request of RM.
The rest were all previously identified as those that fit the model we're looking to implement.
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10 Jul 2025 14:39:49
OWScit does look like that but perhaps he is manager number 1 and the players he is choosing are those which fit in with an agreed style the club has with the manager. from this point managers will have to use the players we have and, whilst making a few changes, won't be allowed to boot everyone out and start again. the fact we pay reasonable fees and wages might mean we can get rid of players we don't want without a huge loss as well.
On the point of winning every week I am not sure there are players in our price range who are sued to that. you need to play for Man City and Liverpool type to have that need and we can't afford them. I agree it is what we need but perhaps that is the mentality part which needs developed when they are here.
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10 Jul 2025 14:43:26
Careful OWS you'll be getting called a tim or hounded out for negative views lol
I have stated this a couple of times now, we were told signings would be for the club DNA going forward and that our new model would fit this. Yet we are shopping only in the lower English leagues, even after Koppen stated it's hard to get value for money there.
All new signings will have my backing of course and I'm telling myself it's only for this first window so that RM has a squad with his stamp on it but I'm still worried.
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10 Jul 2025 14:48:20
I think the fact is the squad we had last year beat Celtic more than they beat us. The question is are the players we are signing an improvement on the ones we've released and are they going to help with the games we lost last year. We can only judge them on that when it happens. There will be players signed with a long term view to benefitting the club from a business point of view and there will be players signed with a shorter view to help implement Martins way of playing. Given our transfer business isn't complete I'm actually very pleased with who we have brought in in a short period of time and can see the thinking behind majority of the signings.
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10 Jul 2025 14:58:54
Other than Rothwell and Aaron's we have signed young players that have potential. Fernandez, Cameron, aasgard. If we bring in Gassama that's another young player. It's not like we have signed 6 30 year olds.
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10 Jul 2025 15:08:53
Got to remember though it's about winning and if we win I don't care the age. Can't go off YouTube but fans seem to think highly of the new signings bar Fernandez. Time will tell.
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10 Jul 2025 15:11:13
Bigbluejim he's only get called a tim if he posts like a tim✌️.
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10 Jul 2025 15:11:26
That post was meant to be part of an earlier one but my phone played up.
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10 Jul 2025 15:12:36
I don't see it being any different to foreign signings tbh if anything British based players will know more what it's all about.
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10 Jul 2025 15:13:25
I think koppen leaving or in the midst of leaving is a mistake as we seem to be going down the same route as Beale etc… it's not worked in the past so don't see why it will work this time but will get behind the players and the manager.
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10 Jul 2025 15:20:43
Does anyone really think the club is buying overpriced players from an inferior market REALLY, as long as they are right players they can come from anywhere, don't think we have payed over the the going rate either.
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10 Jul 2025 15:34:03
From what fan media say its a short term market this window to get a team that can play martins way on the pitch and then after we'll look to diversify markets again.
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10 Jul 2025 15:37:11
The motherwell game will be a huge test . A MUST win otherwise the fallout will be unspeakable.
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10 Jul 2025 15:48:18
We wanted players in and we are getting players in no matter where from or league played in
nobody knows if they will work out or not but let's get behind them
or would use rather we stick with propper king cifu dowell mcausland etc
think we know already from sunday booing the answer too that
so i'm optimistic we going in the right direction an look forward team gelling
🔴⚪️🔵.
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10 Jul 2025 15:49:44
We haven't overpaid for anyone so far. Working in the English market and picking up decent deals is credit to the new guys in charge.
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10 Jul 2025 15:55:04
Here we go, one day its stop signing foreigners they don't know what scottish football is about, now we want to limit ourselves to those who know how to win. well apart from 4 teams in each of the leagues in europe very few will know what it means to win every game. even the top teams in england don't win every game or beat their main rival on every occasion.
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10 Jul 2025 15:56:20
All opinions. I'd much rather we signed players that Martin and co know from the Championship, which is a very strong competitive league . other than foreign players who are yet to experience the Ukraine, let alone SPL. Imo the players from the Chmpionship have a very hectic schedule, much like our own but with much higher quality!
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10 Jul 2025 15:59:51
What route is that Strom?
Personally I can't see any similarities in the approach under Beale and Martin?
I do agree that Koppen will be a loss, however Purdy seems to be equally as clued up.
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10 Jul 2025 16:04:55
I have to be honest, I actually really like the business that's been done so far and the profile of player that's been recruited.
nothing can be completely fixed in one window hence why I think some of the loans are sensible approaches. Excited to see what else is to come.
The obvious challenge is getting some out the door but trust the process.
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10 Jul 2025 16:08:02
The approach of using English market does concern me and have posted on this a few times.
But profile matters more than the market we buy players. If the players are brought in on a proper wage structure who can be future assets I don't actually care where they are from.
Like EHL says there have been a number of the new signings which fit this profile.
There are also benefits to using the English market. There are fewer challenges in terms of culture and language using a local market. The English leagues have also been constantly increasing in the standard of football due to spending increasing over time.
I think quantity and immediate impact is being prioritised for this window which, as a fan, I don't mind as we should have a much more competitive team. As long as we control wages we can still do this and mitigate the risk.
So while I have concerns about the affordability of using the English market I am far from doom and gloom, particularly because I like most of the signings on an individual basis thus far.
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10 Jul 2025 16:19:30
It has been reported that Martins was 'allowed' to sign 3 players if his choice (Aarons, Rothwell and I think Coady) . 2/ 3rds of that has happened and the rest were players who fit our current trading model. It seems we had been watching Aasgaard and Djiga for a while now but missed out on them. so we maybe aren't forgetting the model Koppen put in place but supplementing it with Purdy's knowledge. it may just be coincidence that the players signed are from English market as that is where they were playing latterly but not when we started watching them.
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10 Jul 2025 16:38:11
I understand your thinking storm but with igamane being a player recommended through clement and not koppen which players did he bring to club that wyere a success keep in mid dio was scouted by club ling before koppen arrived too.
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10 Jul 2025 16:42:06
Ehl where did I mention Martin in my post I said same route as Beale meaning the club. As of right now it's all lower league in England bar the loan from wolves but I ain't counting loans as they are not loan to buy etc….
the majority links are with lower league also right at this min so a blind man can see similarities mate.
I am not saying that's what it will end up like just that's what it looks like at the moment and let's be honest it's not rocket science.
Mystar you act like a tim on here but no one tells you that.
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10 Jul 2025 16:44:38
Angus, there's no place in this forum for sense like that!
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10 Jul 2025 16:46:35
I don't think Koppen will be a loss, most of his signing's did not work. I don't see any similarities either with Beale. I do like the British league approach to signings, I think players adapt quicker. Its really a question of have the players signed got the quality, of course time will tell but I do like the look of the Wolves boy and the Norwegian boy.
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10 Jul 2025 17:00:21
I think the key to winning the league is beating the other 10 teams, and the right players from the markets we're looking at, playing the right style of football, can do that.
We had good players last season, as the results in Europe and against Celtic showed. We lost the league because we couldn't do the bread and butter job of beating St Mirren, Killy, etc. Good championship players certainly are capable of doing that, if we get the right ones and play the right way.
Plus we shouldn't ignore the likes of Aribo and O'Reilly coming in to the Scottish from EFL teams and progressing rapidly and really showing thier quality. And it wouldn;t surprise me if there was more data available on these EFL players than there was on most other leagues, given the investment pumped in to the English game in recent times. I've been happy with the signing approach so far, and hope there's more to come.
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10 Jul 2025 17:17:07
Koppen was overseeing a restructuring of the clubs recruitment model and process. this is where his influence and success will show longer term. he was focussed on identifying and recruiting young players both domestically and internationally. He was involved in the recruitment of Cerny, Igamane and recently Cameron (who even if he doesn't make it with us will get a fee in future) . time will tell if others are a success who were purchased whilst he was here but there is hope for Jefte, Dio and even Bajrami to make us fees.
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10 Jul 2025 17:23:08
I must be blind then Strom, I can't see any similarities and since you haven't pointed any out I assume you can't either.
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10 Jul 2025 18:07:21
Brilliant again storm you're something else man🤯.
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