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19 Feb 2020 11:30:35
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17 Feb 2020 10:00:10
Not posted in a long time but here goes, for weeks Gerrard has been playing guys totally out of form and its classed as favourites in my eyes, goldson is only ever a few games away from a terrible mistake but never gets dropped, kamera, Aribo and kent have been dire for weeks but took until we are out the title race to start dropping them.

Also the winter break is meant for a rest not double training sessions in Dubai, the only people that get a break was the management team, make no mistakes most of this dip in form is the managers fault.

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17 Feb 2020 10:28:20
Short memories and very fickle. And please spare me the Greg Docherty nonsense because he scored a screamer on Saturday, what difference would he make to us because he still certainly isn’t a better option than anything we have. The nacho novo brigade are out in full force again I see.

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17 Feb 2020 10:47:59
Cant really see that when the wee mans not really had a chance. At least he's got a bit of drive about him and get into the opposition box, apart from arfield none of our midfielders do that regularly, they all play too close to the back 4 at times. Think he was very unlucky not to get a chance.

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17 Feb 2020 13:58:36
Herewego55 watched under21 against caley thistle they played exactly same way as senior team so must be management instructions that are problem. Playing a back four and two defensive midfielders plus play our best attacking midfielder on wing is ridiculous 😡😡😡😡😡.

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17 Feb 2020 14:43:49
6 counties, i will say to you as I've said to others the system is not the problem, as its no problem at liverpool, its the squad that's not good enough, if the whole liverpool team came up to play for rangers do you think they would lose the league?

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17 Feb 2020 16:37:37
Greg Docherty deserves his chance. Exactly the type of midfielder we need, industrial, hard working, box to box, and scores a goal or two. Still young and will only get better. People forget the likes of Davis isn’t going to be around forever so we need young players coming through for the bigger picture.
Greg Stewart also deserves his chance, never put a foot wrong when been called on but can’t get his chance.

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17 Feb 2020 17:28:26
Docherty had 11 appearances for the Gers and failed to make a significant contribution or score any goals.

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17 Feb 2020 18:01:39
Docherty season 17/ 18 - 13 games. 0 goals, 2 assists. Hardly set the heather alight. While i believe he is a good player (Gerrard admitted this also), he is not getting infront of Aribo, Jack, Davis or Arfield.

Baffles me that when the team have hit the skids people start clutching at straws and thinking Docherty or Murphy would have single-handedly pulled us out this slump. That's not how football works.

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17 Feb 2020 19:06:35
When Murphy was on loan to us, he had plenty assists, started of well after signing then the injury happened.

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17 Feb 2020 19:29:51
Nobody's saying it is, but fo you not agree that Jamie Murphy is a better player than Barker or ojo eho got plenty of chances? Or some games docherty would fit the system better than aribo,? Sribo is s good player but in the harder games he's a luxury we csnt afford if were struggling for form.

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17 Feb 2020 21:15:06
Pack it in mate. Kamara hasn't been a regular starter for weeks. Goldson is used as a scapegoat and has been our most consistent player since coming back. Why does katic always seem to avoid criticism when he is always 40 yards up field chasing lost balls, being bullied by strikers meaning goldson has to recover for him?

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17 Feb 2020 21:50:14
All the Docherty naysayers with the stats from 17-18 season are missing one major stat. The team was rank. Russell Martin, Cardoso, Herrera, Holt, Halliday, Goss, etc. we haven’t seen him amongst the current squad so how anyone can say he’s not good enough is beyond me.

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17 Feb 2020 22:14:21
Never seen Katic being bullied by anyone yet lol? His passes hv been shockin recently. But once he gets bk in form hel be solid again.

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18 Feb 2020 05:58:11
I support all our players and give them total backing, but have to be honest as Tjrfc is correct imo also, regarding his post regarding connor goldson and nikola katic. I like big katic, but he can be very erratic at times and his positional sense is also a fault of his.

I've said this until i'm blue in the face that goldson is undoubtedly rangers best centre half, who does get made a scapegoat by some, quite a lot and others get off scot free! I'm not saying big goldson doesn't make mistakes, but he covers katic a lot as well as also covering worrall when he was here.

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18 Feb 2020 10:37:26
Its not a case of Gerrard having favourites and not wanting to drop them, the problem is there is not enough quality in the playing squad to replace them, for example when Morelos, Jack and Tavernier were out recently we didn't have anyone to step in and do the job as well as them. simple.

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18 Feb 2020 13:55:37
All we need is our players especially our top players to up their levels again and we will be fine. We aren’t a bad team all of a sudden. We were always going to drop points, probably 3 more than I thought we would’ve dropped by now after the break when looking at the fixtures but still so much to play for. Even the games we lost recently we still had good/ great chances to score more goals and on Sunday the game should’ve been over at half time. If we weren’t creating chances then I would worry but we are so it will come again for us.

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18 Feb 2020 21:38:16
Golson most certainly has not been our mist consistant. Bombscare of a defender. Seen his make some crazy mistakes that have cost is. Some he's got away with.

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18 Feb 2020 23:08:02
Rick witter, i agree completely mate, i also think once celtic drop points they will go on a wee bad spell, if so we just need to be ready, aye ready.

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19 Feb 2020 00:45:51
DR1 dykes bullied him in the last game and cosgrove bullied him last week. Did he not lose it leaving McGregor to pull off a world class save? He's erratic and has to learn what to chase and when to be reserved.

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17 Feb 2020 07:53:31
Supposing we win nothing this season which is by far the most likely scenario and heaps of transfer money is not made available from thin air to revamp the squad, next season why would gerrard remain to face more humiliation. surely from his point of view, getting out would be the sensible option before his reputation is in tatters. And where is the transfer money materialising from?

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17 Feb 2020 09:13:51
Good point.

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17 Feb 2020 09:42:20
if sg walks his reputation will be in tatters!

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17 Feb 2020 09:54:11
Are we forgetting we played everyone off the park for first half of season Inc top European sides in porto etc. We have had a disaster over the last 4/ 5 weeks. If we click back into gear play well to end of season (probably still won't win the league granted) but from where we were when Gerrard came in then how can that be time for him to go. We've bridged what was a massive gap between us and them and other than a shocking couple of games we've been had a good season, we're still in the fight and there's still Scottish Cup to go for.
Yes, it's a missed opportunity in the league but only because we were put in the position of being so good in first half season.
Back the team and the manager.

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17 Feb 2020 09:58:29
He helped build the humiliation you talk about.

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17 Feb 2020 10:20:26
if he needs heaps of transfer money on top of what he’s spent is that what we need.

how much do you actually need to put a team on the park to beat bottom of table hearts or a poor killie / dons anyway

without contradicting myself i do admit hagi looks very good and he would be an excellent addition to our team but will prob cost 4/ 5m.

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17 Feb 2020 10:49:35
Being honest, I eouldnt pay 5m for haji on the evidence of what I've saw so far.

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17 Feb 2020 14:06:25
Trev, livi spent about 8 pound on transfer fees, yet beat celtic 2/ 0 we need to keep buying players until we've got a good enought pool of player to challenge celtic, as its going to be hard winning the league with the small amount of first team players we have at this moment in time.

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17 Feb 2020 14:20:24
Spot on Trev about the hearts / killie an dons recent games .

Be surprised if our own supporters don't give us gip for that comment
tho.

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17 Feb 2020 15:07:41
Herewego55 Really? he has scored and got an assist in 3 matches and has still yet to fully settle into the squad. Time will tell but tbh i'd already say he is a better acquisition for 5m than Kent is for 7m.

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17 Feb 2020 17:13:40
Exactly, but Kent's not exactly setting the heather on fire. Cracking player, imo not worth 5m if thsts ok?

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18 Feb 2020 10:24:19
Trev, celtic have spent massively, they've earned at least 200 million in ch lge money, plus 20 mill in transfer fees while we've spent a pittance in comparison, and you and others expect gerrard to win league in a short space of time, phew I've heard it all now. the 25 million in transfer fees recouped by celtic was buttons compared to there ch league money, i think people should think for a few wee seconds before posting.

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18 Feb 2020 15:19:04
Herewego55 we can't really say either way. if we do then its hardly giving the boy a chance. as i said time will tell he looks a cracking player and really 5m when you think of it isn't really that much money compared with the fees that we hear down south (i know were basically a farmers league in comparison)

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18 Feb 2020 23:15:15
Kylel1872,i think if we bring in another 3players of his quality in the summer, we would definetly have a team good enough to win the league, that's the way we will build until we have a strong pool, and lots of current team will be squad players.

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15 Feb 2020 05:41:44
Lose today and its game over. in fact lose again ever this season its game over.

Its obvious teams know the gerrard system so why not change it. spice things up a bit. in no way shape or form do i know anything about managing a football team but even i can see gerrards tactics are failing miserably.

i don't want him gone, just think this team shouldn't have just 1 set if tactics. the team we have could and should be able to beat the likes of aberdeen hearts and definitely killie, even on a bad day. if we drop any ore points then even i will admit the leagues done.

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15 Feb 2020 08:24:37
It's already over since hearts played us affordable park couple a was ago wake up mate.

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15 Feb 2020 09:00:54
Its going to be mighty hard to win the league, anybody can see that but behave yourself its not over! Still 2 old firm games and we've a game in hand and we must win them all, which of course is achievable.

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15 Feb 2020 09:31:19
Guys it's already over All this about going against Gerrard is till too premature We are still competing in the Europa and also have a Scottish Cup If we win the Scottish Cup then I rwckon it's an improved season from last!

Let's get behind the team and Gerrard
Gerrard might have been world class as a player and is trying to just as good as a Manager but you all forget he is relatively new to this side of the football and is also learning every day so of course he is going to get some things wrong!
Get a grip the lot of you This Rangers team has come a long way!

We can't just punt an Managar and try another Gerrard has inherited this team and would be far too much money to replace Money we do not have

Gerrard needs the players to have the winning mentality and he is right to call it out!

Shut up Chris Sutton Its ok for you to call the shots from the side and you aren't always correct!

There are players that are not up for it and we need to correct a wrong and get back where we were before the winter break
To an extent we do need more depth in our squad
This is not just Gerrard's fault yes his tactics haven't been 100% Players also haven't delivered

We are all one big family So let's get together!

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15 Feb 2020 09:34:11
Hope Stevie gets the guys fired up. Tell them it's a clean slate, highlight the fact that the criticisms are at fever pitch. Not to leave anything on the park. After the events of Helicopter Sunday in 2005 I'll never concede unless it is mathematically impossible. Keep believing. This is the same squad that did so well and played them off the park twice despite horrendous referreing decisions against us.

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15 Feb 2020 10:49:43
Stevie's on the rags saying if he concedes failure he would take off the badge walk away and jump in the car.

Take this to means he's going nowhere if he can help it.

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15 Feb 2020 11:01:26
God are people still talking about SG six weeks ago he was a hero a great manager yes we’re going through a bad patch but crime where the team was when he came in to where we are now there has been a vast improvement.

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15 Feb 2020 11:13:44
Wake up. the league is over don't clutch in to fantasies. we blew it. glad the manager has admitted what I said all along that we have not enough proven winners and we are weak . mentally.

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15 Feb 2020 14:48:09
Never give up. Its celtics title to lose now of course but they haven't won it yet.

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15 Feb 2020 17:06:50
Let’s just throw the towel in and not bother turning up for the rest of the campaign. Anybody wanting 2 cheap season tickets? Get a grip.

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16 Feb 2020 14:11:39
Kaz, that post certainly didn't fill me with confidence. He's still learning, but we are supposed to accept that he's out of his depth? And seeker, that was the most cliché ridden post ever.

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16 Feb 2020 16:04:55
The league is already over even if we win all our games (which we wont) who else can take points off celtic.

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16 Feb 2020 16:08:41
League is definitely already over. Even if we win the rest of our league games (which we won’t) what other teams will beat celtic. Other teams never seem to raise there game against them. m, and even when celtic play awful the still pick up the 3 points.

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16 Feb 2020 18:22:45
any true rangers fan will keep believing.

European matches will make ticks drop points.

give hagi a chance too, he's still learning.


wdw.

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16 Feb 2020 20:48:37
It’s nothing to do with tactics, for whatever reason the players are underperforming the same thing happened last year and the tactics have always been the same, if we play to our full potential we should be to much for almost any team in the league and have been, so it’s not tactical it’s players not turning up, Kent for instance he has ability that’s not in question but he’s been absolutely mince all season a couple of good games but nothing amazing for £7m I’d be expecting the new Laudrup but if Murphy played as many games he’d eat Kent up and spit him out I also think Docherty would be a better cm than Kamara or Aribo both are Rangers men too.

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17 Feb 2020 09:10:55
there is valid points to both sides of argument on this thread, however the one statement i find baffling is from Kazmania?!?!

Gerrrard inherited this team? you having a laugh mate? Apart from Tav, Morelos, wes and halliday the entire squad is gerrards players.

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17 Feb 2020 09:39:07
Docherty is not a better option than Kamara and Murphy is not a better option than Kent. Absolute clueless and fickle on this forum.

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17 Feb 2020 10:50:58
But Murphy is certainly a better option than ojo snd Barker who have had chance after chance. Not one of them 2 could lace Jamie Murphy's boots.

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15 Feb 2020 00:10:11
has anyone else noticed a change in Gerrard? He has lost his enthusiastic attitude, his voice is now monotoned, he is now depressing to listen to and he is very quick tempered with some press day questions. All that adds up to me thinking if he is depressed, it's rubbing off on the dressing room. When he arrived on the scene he was very humble but positive and forward thinking, all that has disappeared?

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15 Feb 2020 08:28:26
Coz Ho knows he's made a pigs ear of no buying better for instance wasting 7mill on Kent we could've got 2 good players in fur that dough.

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15 Feb 2020 09:34:27
what 2 good players wld you have bought for the 7m DS?

you got to luv the hindsight on here.

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15 Feb 2020 09:35:42
Ffs he always sounded like that. Give the guy a break

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15 Feb 2020 10:05:39
£7M was too much on Kent, but after Sept 1st we were backed up in a corner. It just turns out £4M would probably have been too much for him as well.

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15 Feb 2020 11:17:12
He has, over estimated his, players and what they beleive they can acheive as they don't match his desire or passion to win i'm very frustrated too that this bunch of pampered prima Donna's don't have any fire in them to fight .

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15 Feb 2020 11:20:59
It’s called stress mate. Bad enough dealing with a few greetin faced so n so’s at work but we have thousands of them.

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15 Feb 2020 11:24:08
Gerrard's heart is still in it He is maybe taking a different approach Dometimes you have to become ruthless to get to places! Remember and I said, Gerrard is also learning people forget that! Give him time he will deliver!

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15 Feb 2020 11:32:28
Genk were prepared to pay £7 million for Kent.
It was the going rate. 👍
And funny how nobody questioned his value after that goal at the piggery on the 29th?

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15 Feb 2020 11:59:06
hes not depressed he's disappointed in some of his players as we all are they are the ones who have let the team and supporters down. thre is no need for him to fire them up the wage that they earn and the pride they have inside themselves should be enough. he has every right to call them out this would happen in your own work place[remember this is just a job]and your manger would be on your back if your not performing they should all man up and get on with it.

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15 Feb 2020 19:50:37
Mr tip - it’s a ridiculous point, he hasn’t kicked a ball in the correct manner since, why on earth would anyone talk about his cost when we were just celebrating an old firm win? And why wouldn’t they question when he doesn’t seem to be good enough now?

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15 Feb 2020 22:56:53
Do you want Gerrard to do interviews cracking jokes! . he's disappointed!

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16 Feb 2020 08:19:23
So the full team under performed Tommy since New Year.
Which means are they all not good enough? And their values will all have decreased?
Does that mean Barisic is back to being the donkey plenty thought he was before he turned into the player he is?
The team are having a wee blip!

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14 Feb 2020 19:40:48
Only sharing what i've been told from a usually reliable source fellow bears. As i'm sure most has read our club statement regarding our claiming of almost £3million from hummel/ elite with proceedings started to recoup money that is rightfully ours. A good source of mine tells me that our commercial director james bisgrove who was over in america for a good few weeks there, was supposedly tying up a deal with adidas to eventually become our new kit manufacturers and taking over from hummel. Rangers i was told are trying to come to an amicable agreement with hummel, to cease our 3 year contract with them early, as we still have another year to run with them. If that's unsuccessful, we will wear the same hummel kits we currently have, for our 3rd and final year with them for next season, with adidas taking over from hummel after next season (2021/ 2022) season! Only passing on what I was told.

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14 Feb 2020 19:52:17
Would be interesting if Adidas were to make kits for us and the persons at the same time.

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14 Feb 2020 19:53:36
Hummel gear is good quality so I wouldn’t be disappointed to stick in however Adidas are top drawer and would hopefully provide a more lucrative deal. I.

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14 Feb 2020 20:08:19
What person's at the same time Rangerstalk5?

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14 Feb 2020 21:23:35
No this again. You have had us with every kit manufacturer apart from hummels in the last 5 year. Who is this reliable source super?

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14 Feb 2020 22:39:07
Gas. Who gives a FF. Really is a broken record. We will get a kit deal (as long as its good) at some point with somebody, the players will have stuff to wear and we will buy it. This Adidas, Nike, under Armour pish is a distraction and has no effect on how our players perform. The only thing that matters is the league.

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15 Feb 2020 00:11:40
autocorrect lmao Steven Gerrard loyal. It was meant to be the persons lol.

{Ed033's Note - If you're too derogatory, then the 'persons' word appears.

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15 Feb 2020 01:13:23
I could have made up this drivel while sitting on the toilet.
kit manufacturing seems to be a coops obsession and always wrong.

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15 Feb 2020 11:36:08
Give SGL a break.
I would rather have a rumour about our kit than the nonsense some of you lot are talking about our manager and players. 👍.

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15 Feb 2020 16:12:18
Only passing on what i had heard.
Thats what these pages are all about.

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15 Feb 2020 21:31:31
SGL - Apologies, yes you were just passing on info. Just don't like to see our club with its arse in the wind waiting for the first bull.

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16 Feb 2020 09:32:53
SGL, Adidas would be fantastic for Rangers and they've made some classic gear for us. Looking forward to that.

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18 Feb 2020 10:13:51
Rangers talk, surely autocue wouldn't allow the lmao, it would print aman or some other word.

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14 Feb 2020 17:20:02
Take it with a pinch of salt etc etc but I’ve heard talk of Souness investing in the upcoming share issue.

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14 Feb 2020 18:04:24
More or less any one can. Unless it’s by invitation.

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14 Feb 2020 19:51:24
I know John but this one is very different. King said at AGM this will be a closed one where only certain people can invest.

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14 Feb 2020 23:28:19
Rangerstalk5, i thought mr king was meaning only current shareholders will be allowed to buy more shares, could be wrong, but that's how i see it.

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15 Feb 2020 01:14:09
Nonsense.

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15 Feb 2020 07:25:49
I agree but let’s wait and see what actually happens.

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15 Feb 2020 19:57:49
French billionaire, from Dubai,

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16 Feb 2020 15:04:37
Tommyblue, does that french millionaire run about on a blue camel, because he just went passed my window mate, hard to believe i know, but true.

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16 Feb 2020 23:51:31
I believe you mate.

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14 Feb 2020 17:12:44
Lads I have a bit of a story about a potential problem in the dressing room between some of the players. I've thought about whether or not I should post this as I don't know if I believe it or not.

When Tav had his appendix problem the captaincy obviously went to Connor Goldson as he is the named vice captain. Apparently nobody had given this a thought until Tav was unavailable. Connor Goldson is supposedly a guy who doesn't really mix with the other players on a personal level and keeps himself to himself off the pitch. When he took on the captains duties in Tavs absence he was supposedly playing up to it in the dressing room and giving it the big uns and calling everybody out for their mistakes. Some of the other players took exception to this and told him that Davis or Mcgregor should be the vice captain and not him. This has meant to have caused a bit of unrest.

So my source is someone who is friendly with Brandon Barker. She is not into football and doesn't ever talk to me about it but yet she has come up with this story. She wouldn't even know any of the players names i wouldn't think unless someone told her.

Im leaning towards this not being true but because a few on here have heard that SG has lost the dressing room I thought i'd post this as a potential explanation. I don't believe SG has lost the dressing room but maybe just maybe there are a few problems between the players themselves.

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14 Feb 2020 18:49:17
No way Greegsy should be vice captain, he should be captain. He knows what it's all about.

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14 Feb 2020 19:02:42
And that makes them all rubbish? This lassie knows nothing but knows all the names,

Problems in every dressing room in the country, same as all workplaces, personalities clash.

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14 Feb 2020 20:28:11
That story is utter bs. there are no player issues and no issues with players and coaching team. The players are still 100% behind the management team and answers will be found to address the form and confidence slump. It’s time for our so called big players to take on the responsibility and get us back to where we were heading and that was clear to see in every aspect of team as improvement. We have improved but unfortunately so have Celtic.

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15 Feb 2020 01:17:39
Hans Christian Andersen's publisher is interested in you writing for them, MOC Bear. This is the best fairy story of the season so far.

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15 Feb 2020 09:27:09
GIve the guy a break. He’s just posting a rumour on a rumours site. why always the need to cry B. s?

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15 Feb 2020 12:15:33
Cheers gersdaft. i'm a big boy and can take the responses that anyone wishes to come back with. I rarely post any rumours or things I've heard unless i know there is a bit of substance to them and i said that i didn't think what she was saying was correct. However if the covenanter enjoyed the story that much i'd happily make up more for him. Infact he could just continue writing some of his own BS he seems quite good at that. Goldson still with us no bid in January from Leeds or Fulham and no rumours of the bidding war happening between them for the summer. The egyptian winger we were supposedly interested in wasnt even spoken about. Now that I think about it did you not win the turner prize covenanter for best fiction😛😂.

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15 Feb 2020 12:38:02
So she's no into football, doesn't know any players names but she's sat and had a conversation with Brandon barker about in depth info at rangers in dressing room first team goings on? That's like trying to put square pegs in round holes. I get its a rumours site etc and people pass on "what they have heard" and also from " people who wouldn't make stuff up" but something's are just silly. If this was to turn out to be a correct and confirmed situation the. Il happily come back here and eat humble pie.

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15 Feb 2020 18:23:28
Kri55, don't know who or if you have a circle of friends that you completelty trust but sometimes pals talk to each other about things they know aren't of interest to the people they are talking to but want to get things off their chest. I know i do it. I re-iterate that I don't think this would be true but the girl is a decent person and knows BB very well. Like i said, i thought about whether i should post this or not and the only reason I did was because people on here had said they heard SG had lost the dressing room. This happened to be related to that thought process so i posted it. Simple as that.

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15 Feb 2020 18:31:11
Oh and another thing kri55. What ever happened to Sturridge after he did his medical with us😂😂😂 Its a rumours site mate and I enjoy your input.

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15 Feb 2020 19:35:55
Dunno about sturridge mate I've never mentioned his name lol
That's a fair enough point Mocbear and il retract my last statement. If its true its not a good sign however il take your word for it. As I say, last comment retracted and no hard feelings mate. Don't take it personal. 💙.

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16 Feb 2020 08:38:43
Hugh Burns alluded to some friction in the dressing room. The problem started on the dubai trip.

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18 Feb 2020 17:55:27
Any bears know what Hugh Burns was on about when he said something unsavoury happened in Dubai? He's a true Rangers man which makes me think he must know something for him to say that publicly.

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