01 Apr 2026 18:16:37
I see a report saying we're interested in Northern Ireland and sheffield wednesday goalkeeper again, pierce Charles 🤔 However, we seem to have a good number of young keepers at Rangers just now and i know 2 are very highly rated and possible Rangers no.1's in the future ie.mason Munn and rydnn McGuire 👌We also have current no.1 & no.2 respectively Jack Butland and liam Kelly and other young keepers out on loan Kieran Wright and hogarth 🤔So as much as i rate charles every time i've seen him playing, it looks like we're currently well stocked with quality, young goalkeepers 👌A question for John and EHL regarding our young goalkeepers as they'll have good knowledge on them especially mason munn and rydnn McGuire and which one of these 2 do they reckon is the more talented and more likely to be a future Rangers no.1 ie. Munn V McGuire 🤔 What's you guys opinion on this 🤔
01 Apr 2026 19:02:56
Hogarth was released last summer, he's not out on loan. Wright will never make it at Rangers now, and McGuire is just a kid, he may have potential, but he is years away from playing first team football. Munn seems to be the most likely to make the breakthrough.
The question is, do we see Kelly as a legitimate challenger to Butland or do we want to sign someone who will compete and possibly take over. The fact that he is Scottish is a plus but shouldn't determine our plans for the keeping position going forward.
01 Apr 2026 19:22:35
Sws, Charles wouldn't be long in taking Butland jersey. imo.
01 Apr 2026 20:56:37
Yip Charles miles ahead of our youngsters.
01 Apr 2026 22:32:09
Do we have one at Stranraer?
01 Apr 2026 23:58:26
Know someone who played with him, says he's going all the way to the top. Would be a steal if wee got him. Wee, we're definitely interested last summer, so hope they get him and his brother would be good as well.
02 Apr 2026 07:55:05
Weren't we linked with him ages ago when Danny came? He was tipped to be a January target due to Sheffield's money issues.
02 Apr 2026 08:35:01
Five shoulder operations so far. Why Man City got rid of.
02 Apr 2026 08:39:24
Missed 165 days so far through injury this season. No thanks.
02 Apr 2026 08:58:03
Only seeing two shoulder injuries, John, one right, one left. His age? Outstanding young keeper, unbelievable with the ball at his feet.
02 Apr 2026 09:12:29
Ok, go red his career. Still missed 165 days this season. Sign him, move Butland on, back up Kelly Munn. Will win us plenty.
Many better keepers available across Europe.
02 Apr 2026 09:19:37
John, Charles is an outstanding young keeper, I'd be all over signing him, but that makes no difference, looks like Rohl wants him, probably be more our keeper coach, his age could easily be the problem, he goes injury free and he'll play for a top club.
02 Apr 2026 09:36:40
He's nowhere near standard or experience required, fgs, 30 games.
02 Apr 2026 09:54:44
You must have seen him playing many times then, Jonn, but he's rated very highly from keeper coaches, 10 caps for his country at 20 year old. You need to start somewhere, and he is a quality young keeper on a different level from Munn. Read the Championship is a low level now.
02 Apr 2026 10:00:17
Yes, it is a low level, My star, you're once again totally missing the point. He is nowhere close to being a first pick for Rangers, or any EHL team.
No way does he take Butland jersey in the next 18 months, even if he can stay fit, both his shoulders are a major issue at present.
I think you're letting your Irish caps cloud your judgement.
02 Apr 2026 10:10:33
Not at all, John, he is an outstanding young keeper. Charles signs for Rangers. Wait and see how long it takes before he takes Butland jersey, it would be nowhere near 18 months.
The Championship isn't even close to low level. Can't believe you even said that, what's ours then?
02 Apr 2026 10:48:41
John, whether Charles would quickly take Butland's No.1 jersey or not, there's absolutely no doubt, mate, that Pierce Charles is regarded a terrific young goalkeeper, with a big career predicted ahead of him. 🤔 There's a lot of coaches stating this, and our goalkeeper coach rates him to the hilt. 🤔
02 Apr 2026 10:50:53
Will he need any more operations, to muck a risk imo.
02 Apr 2026 11:57:38
U told us Butland munn McGuire r great goalkeepers OBE.
My point is 20, thirty games in his career. 165 days out so far this season through injury.
At no time do I say he is rubbish.
02 Apr 2026 12:29:32
Not seen much of Charles, but ops on both shoulders, and he's only 20, is a red flag. We could sign him as a development project, but I don't see us going into big games with a 20 year old keeper, so I don't think Butland would be in any danger anytime soon.
Trouble with that is that it means Charles won't get a lot of game time and he probably doesn't want that.
02 Apr 2026 12:41:27
On the fence, I think he's a great example of everything a modern goalkeeper should be, but I do worry about the shoulder injuries. However, his shoulder worries might be the only reason we are even in discussions.
Our current goalkeeper knows all about setbacks with injuries; could argue one ruined his international career.
It would spell the end for Mason Munn, I would imagine. However, he doesn't seem to have kicked on much anyways.
02 Apr 2026 12:42:54
They don't come bigger than games qualifying for the World Cup, Wslgers. He had a very good game against Italy.
02 Apr 2026 12:52:15
Also, just wanted to add, not like shoulder surgeries aren't uncommon for goalkeepers. Just off the top of my head, Jan Oblak has had surgery in both his shoulders about 10 years ago, Nick Pope and Allison. That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's thousands of examples.
02 Apr 2026 12:58:13
CalB, could simply be growth.
02 Apr 2026 13:01:34
SWS, I don't think either Munn or McGuire have any realistic future and I hope they don't wait too long before moving on.
02 Apr 2026 13:08:13
Men's growth plates typically fuse (close) and stop increasing height between the ages of 16 and 21, with 18 to 20 being the average age for final closure. While major growth usually stops by 18, some males may continue to grow slightly in their late teens or early twenties due to delayed puberty.
Just saying to add to the growth theory.
Personally, gd keeper, but injuries too much a risk imo.
02 Apr 2026 13:10:02
Is he fit now? Too much of a risk and we keep doing that.
02 Apr 2026 13:18:47
Fork, He's only had two injuries, mate, yes it would be a risk but a risk worth taking imo, low fee, low wage, goes injury free, tasty profit.
02 Apr 2026 13:22:11
Ehl, Honest question to your good self, mate. 🤔 Do you think we'll sign Pierce Charles and secondly, do you rate him and want us to sign him. 🤔
02 Apr 2026 13:57:32
In this, his first proper season as a first choice goalkeeper, Charles has missed 34 games (more than he has managed to play) and had operations on both shoulders. So if we sign him (and when fit and available he's good) and these injuries reoccur, who would feel confident going into a run of big European games with Kelly or Munn between the sticks? Obviously Butland wouldn't be hanging around to play second fiddle to Charles, so would we have to sign two goalkeepers?
Outstanding? Not yet.
Potentially outstanding? Yes. Potentially washed up in a year, maybe two? Yes. The question is, would he be worth the risk?
02 Apr 2026 14:10:54
In my time supporting Rangers, our best goalies have all had experience behind them. Woods, Goram and Klos all either 26 or 27 when signed, and McGregor was 24 when he got a run in the team. Every young goalie we've brought through the youth hadn't been anywhere near good enough to be our number 1.
It's a lot of pressure for a young man of 20 to play in front of our fans, who are more than ready to grumble with every mistake made, so I'd much rather we signed a gk who has more experience than someone who's just starting out, personally.
02 Apr 2026 14:12:54
Thornton, let the men at the top decide that. He's had two injuries, but a risk very well worth taking imo.
02 Apr 2026 14:26:13
John, I don't put him in front of Butland. I did a bit of digging and apparently under 21 year old keepers are 4.6 times more likely to need shoulder surgery than older keepers. I think it's just due to his age, and hopefully the surgery has worked.
I don't think any of our current keepers under Butland will ever make Rangers number one in the next 2/3 years. I think this boy could.
02 Apr 2026 14:35:55
SWS, I don't think I've ever seen Charlie's, so have no real opinion on him.
From what I've heard, we have an agreement in principle for a new gk, which was agreed in January.
I am pretty confident it's not Charles.
02 Apr 2026 14:42:26
Experts and analysts have labelled Pierce Charles as a special talent, definitely a risk worth taking.
02 Apr 2026 14:49:37
Very well could be the reason for it, Mystar, I've seen little bits of him for club and country. Think he's a solid goalkeeper, good shot stopper, composed with both feet and good rushing out.
Only negative would be the coming out for crosses, but I think this part of the game has slowly died with the quality of crossing and congestion in the box these days.
Of course, the lack of experience is always going to be viewed as a negative, but I remember same was said for McGregor, he only had 50apps whilst Charles has 40apps club and country atm.
02 Apr 2026 15:13:49
McGuire is supposedly going to Arsenal for close to £2m in the summer, lads, so forget about him.
Young scaly at left back, 16yo, is considering staying as we've made him a very attractive offer and pathway to first team.
However, he also has offers from Arsenal and Chelsea, among others.
As for Charles, lads, I'm actually with John. I wouldn't be signing a keeper who's had 2 or 5 shoulder injuries by the age of 20yo.
02 Apr 2026 15:22:30
He's had two injuries, Stevie, not five, mate, it could quite easily be growth.
02 Apr 2026 15:52:58
My star, can you tell us why he got a free transfer at Man City.
02 Apr 2026 16:02:56
Why did you say he had five injuries when he hasn't, John?
You'd be better telling me why Manchester City freed him, and you'll actually got posters believing he had five injuries now, deary dear man.
02 Apr 2026 16:03:21
Beale, I've read on here it's not a good idea to sign a winger with bad hamstring record as obv it's what wingers use most for pace and turns so is it not same for a keeper with shoulder injuries, especially both at 20?
I'm not an expert on it, mate, but sounds to me like it could be a big gamble, and he'd be a good size fee and wage, I think.
02 Apr 2026 16:22:34
Stevie, and what about growth, mate? Would be pennies, not even close to 5m. Apparently he's on £1500 a week right now.
02 Apr 2026 16:26:53
I mean I can't say why City released him, but also City have let go of many good players, and GK is probably the hardest position to break into for any young player.
Spike Brits will most likely never make an appearance for City, yet he's supposedly the best English youth keeper anyone's ever seen.
02 Apr 2026 16:32:35
So if that's the case EHL, and I absolutely don't doubt your info for a second, mate, so is this new goalkeeper we've already agreed to sign January past there for this summer, going to be replacing Jack Butland as our new no.1 mate starting from next season. 🤔
02 Apr 2026 16:33:23
£5m a lot for a 20yo with 2 shoulder injuries, mate.
Would u pay £5m for a winger with 2 hammy injuries at that age?
It's fair question, bro, and not often we disagree.
02 Apr 2026 16:43:06
As Ehl alludes to, it's not likely him, lots of "debate" as to yes or no. Me, it's a no, not worth the risk, and if Ehl is correct, then the people upstairs see that also.
Gd point, Stevie. 👍
02 Apr 2026 16:48:15
Stevie, I'm saying the fee wouldn't be close to 5m, mate. Just about signed for a French club for around 1m last summer with a couple of years remaining on his contract. We signed Matondo that had a couple of hamstrings and on a big salary for us.
Look at the injuries Olsen has had, few hip injuries, and we could sign him. He's missed more games than Charles since 2023.
02 Apr 2026 17:02:24
Not much but 39 to 36.
02 Apr 2026 17:06:19
Beale, I'd say u kind of prove my point by using Matondo and Olsen as examples, mate.
Matondo a disaster through injuries.
Olsen looks like he'll be the same.
All about opinions though, mate, and if we do, I hope I'm wrong.
02 Apr 2026 17:15:26
Stevie, but a big difference with growth injuries and hopefully that's all his problem.
02 Apr 2026 17:36:38
BiggarGC, I'm sure we loaned a keeper to Stranraer. Was that not why they lost out in cup? Played him when they shouldn't have.
02 Apr 2026 19:10:09
Why would "growth" issues require surgery? I would argue that playing Old Firm games and, hopefully, cup finals have more pressure than an international against Italy that NI weren't expected to win.
I'm glad for him that he played well, but I still don't think Rangers go into a season with a 20 year old as first choice. I've been a Rangers supporter for over 60 years, and have never known it to happen up to now.
02 Apr 2026 19:15:45
He has had five. Having played the game I know under 18s have a number of protections due to age.
Ehl, can u confirm academy DOB, age, injury are among certain things that can't be made public?
02 Apr 2026 19:17:22
My star, it's obvious he had a number of shoulder injuries.
02 Apr 2026 20:27:49
Good debate, guys.
I do think it's a good idea to start planning for a replacement number 1.
I do think Butland has been excellent, but not replaceable.
Other than the Italy match, I haven't watched Charles so can't comment either way.
My question to John, or anyone.
With an able stand, if Charles did get injured (Kelly), would Charles, with his injury status, be insured so too cover the club financially when not available to play?
02 Apr 2026 20:37:22
Irreplaceable. 👍
Kelly an able stand in. 😅
02 Apr 2026 20:37:52
Good Q, CO2. 👍👍
02 Apr 2026 20:39:06
Maybe we'd have to " shoulder" 👀 the burden, anno sorry. 😉😄👍
03 Apr 2026 02:37:45
From what I've been told, Pierce had a lower back injury at 15 that kept him out for over a year and a half.
Would also be "the injury" that Pierce and Shea discussed in their Wednesday interview.
If he had more surgeries, it wasn't when he was at City. That's all I can say.
03 Apr 2026 08:39:51
John, under article 9 of the GDPR, data concerning health (including injury record, surgeries and mental health) cannot be shared publicly.
Typically, there is a clause in all professional contracts that allows clubs to share limited information under the 'Public Interest' clause - therefore until players sign professional contracts, their injury records are typically protected under GDPR.
Obviously, if a player shares this information themselves, then this doesn't apply.
03 Apr 2026 08:42:15
If he's 5m with the injury risk then he's 10m without it, I back the stats/recruitment team not what random fans think, if he's signed for that fee the shoulders are not a problem or we're confident we can recoup most of the money worse case
Although fans will go on and on and on and on and on about his fee so maybe its not a good idea, we're low tolerance to high transfer fees
You spend 8m on a striker and he's got to be a world beater 30 goals a season, the GK can't make a mistake for that fee or he'll quickly get chermitted by fans who have no idea what's going on.
03 Apr 2026 09:34:30
Cheers for the reply Ehl.
03 Apr 2026 11:10:29
Fragile young keeper, who else is queueing up for him?
Gakricky, thanks, I remember now, you're correct.